Churches campaigning for Trump? Take away their tax-exempt status.

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Remember, if you see or hear a church actively campaigning for any sort of politics you can report them and get their tax free status taken away. 👍

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Thank you!

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That’s the brilliant thing about the making politics about cultural issues. Churches can campaign for culture shit all day long. They just can’t say “vote for _____.”

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But Trump has made clear he won’t punish churches that violate the Johnson amendment in 2024, even vowing on a Christian nationalist broadcast last May that he’ll abolish the prohibition if reelected.

But that’s exactly what they’re doing.

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Even when they do, and I have sent in photos of a local church with “Trump 2020” on their placard, nothing at all happens to them.

They aren’t even contacted as far as I can tell.

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Maybe cc a news organization or three on the email to the IRS next time and they can do some follow-up reporting on it?

Failing that, there ought to be some way a lawsuit could get filed that could force the IRS to do their job, though that’d be an expensive and time consuming thing

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I mean, it’s supposed to work that way but that’s extremely rare.

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If enough get reported, especially since now it’s been vocalized and reported. They’re going to be forced to do something about it. I acknowledge it is wishful thinking, though, but don’t give up. Report these fucks either way.

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Doing something about it has a non-zero chance of success.

Doing nothing about it has a guaranteed chance of failure.

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Can I report a church I don’t attend, just so they become paranoid about who snitched?

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Maybe talk to the local news about it.

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Record it happening so you have evidence to back it up. Get it onto social media so everyone can help report it, too!

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Nothing at all will happen. I doubt you can find a single “legitimate” (with a real congregation & actual employees) church that has had their tax free status challenged, let alone removed in the last 30 years.

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I didn’t know that was a thing that could happen

I’ve got to do some research because my grandparents church has been doing this since Bush Sr.

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Not a single church ever has had their tax status taken away for politics. It doesn’t happen

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It happened in 92, but that’s the only publicly known instance.

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Lol that’ll be the day. Has that ever happened? Ever?

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Has that ever happened?

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So your answer is to do nothing and be apathetic?

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I’ve reported a church, with photo evidence from multiple angles. Literally nothing happened.

That law has never been enforced against a “legitimate” church.

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It’s more pointing out how the suggested action is bullshit. It’s like if you had a leaking roof and someone said to blow soap bubbles on it. And then when you point out that’s a nonsensical solution that has no chance of working, they reply “oH, so YoU juSt waNT to Do NotHinG anD bE apaThEtic?”

Pointing out that someones suggestion is a non-solution is not an endorsement of doing nothing. It’s pointing out that the suggestion is not helpful and distracts from actual solutions.

Pretending the IRS would actually go after a church is ignoring the reality of the situation. I don’t want suggestions that would only work in some deluded made up fantasy world.

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you can report them and get their tax free status taken away

And remember, that report will go nowhere and you’ll accomplish nothing! The IRS has never gone after a church for this. Never. Reporting them is just as effective as quietly whispering “please tax them” into your pillow at night.

I wish people would recognize the failures in our system and stop suggesting others do shit that doesn’t actually work.

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Then what do you suggest? You obviously have better ideas? Or do you prefer to just bitch about things and not try to make a change?

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I also wish people would stop saying there’s no hope so do nothing.

No, record them and send it to the IRS. If nothing happens then fine. Nothing was lost. Along with that work towards change. Telling people the system is broken so do nothing is not going to get you the change you want.

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