I’m about to check out too

Please don’t.

There are valid reasons to want to leave.

I don’t disagree, but the reasons to stay are more compelling. You never know when you’ll get to be the right person in the right place at the right time who to help someone else avoid some suffering they don’t deserve, but you’ve gotta be here to do that.

If nothing else, procrastinate on it for a bit. You can always change your mind later.

e; typo

Acting like there will be an election (e.g. organizing and building political coalitions) will put us in a better position to deal with whatever else happens

I don’t think you’re wrong but I also have to add that I won’t accept that we just can’t run black women for offices for that reason

e; I should have read this thread further, it looks like other people are already discussing this

(whose first act as president was to essentially absolve the previous administration and Wall St of their many sins in case anyone forgot how moderate he was).

I think this very thing led to the 2010 tea party wave election that fucked us for a decade and a similar thing has happened here, except it was the seeming inability of the Biden administration to hold Trump and his supporters accountable and not going after corporations making record profits during an inflationary crisis (“So how would you recommend they have done that?” Great question, I will let you know when I have a good answer).

e;

Well, all that and the obvious election interference from Musk, Putin, and the ontological inability of traditional media not to platform literal fascists.

This absolutely played a huge roll (also, voter suppressing laws passed by GOP governments), but I don’t know how to change any of that without having a Democratic party that consistently wins elections first

I’m not gloating, I just said I didn’t want to seem like I was because I’m not trying to antagonize my political allies. I’m sorry if it seems like I am because that really is the last thing I want to do. I want Republicans to lose elections and I’m just putting forth a theory of why they didn’t last night that seems persuasive to me because I’m still operating under the assumption we’ll have more elections (which, like, very TBD, but either way I think building a coalition of like-minded people will be important).

I mean, this wasn’t the friendliest opening statement and I don’t blame anyone for being in a bad mood to begin with this morning

The moment on the View where she said she couldn’t think of anything she’d do different from Biden (which made lots of undecideds say “four more years of inflation and border chaos!”), and then said she’d put a Republican on her cabinet (which made lots of progressives say “both sides are the same!”) really epitomized her problem.

Among other things, she should have just thrown Biden right under the bus and gone with a campaign message of “anything you didn’t like about the last four years was his fault and I’m gonna fix it (“how?” “It’s complicated, here’s a fifty page policy brief you’ll never read.” “I like how prepared you seem!”), anything you did like about the last four years was me pushing Biden to do good.” Like, I personally would have been more enthusiastic about my vote for her if she was more progressive, but I actually don’t know if she needed to be, she just needed to get on board with the premise that most people wanted something “better” (different) than Biden and then define “better” to be whatever she was proposing.

Except Tammy Baldwin and Rashida Tlaib and like half a dozen pro reproductive healthcare ballot measures won last night

Also, I don’t know how exactly we make America less sexist, but drawing a better contrast with the Republican party seems like a tangible and actionable thing

When we’re talking about whether “Kamala” is fine, I think we need to be specific as to what we’re talking about. Like, I think running a non-white woman who occasionally laughs on camera is fine, but running someone who’s flip flopped on Medicare for All isn’t.

Nobody is obligated to turn over the results of their last physical exam either, but when a candidate for elected office refuses to do so everyone freaks out and rightly so