I was gonna title this “And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice” and then write “Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again” here, but I’m not sure if that comes off like gloating and that’s honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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You underestimate the racism and sexism of rhe general population.

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OK, but the people who are that racist and sexist are voting republican anyway. Of the dems many mistakes, running a black woman wasn’t one of them.

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OK, but the people who are that racist and sexist are voting republican anyway

No, plenty of them vote Democrat too, because the majority of the country is racist and sexist, even if it is just subconscious.

I’m not saying running a black woman was a mistake, just that a white man has an advantage because the population tends to favor white men.

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So help me, I’m tired of seeing this take. You can’t have it both ways. If you think Americans (dems specifically) are too racist/sexist for a black female president, then running her IS a mistake. Either you think it’s ok to run a candidate you know will likely lose but it’s worth it to say a black female ran, or you think they had reason to believe she would win. If #1, then that’s tacit support of Trump, if #2 you think the best poli sci/stats people in America were too dumb to figure out people are too sexist/racist.

I know dem voters that are racist (seeing a POC=lock your doors). They voted Harris. I know Rs that are racist (too racist to write here). They voted Trump. If the dems ran a better campaign, Kamala would have won. If they knew they were gonna run this campaign and were concerned the tiny minority of dem racists/sexists would be a problem, they should have run a white man. The take that America is racist but Kamala did all she could and the platform was great and we don’t regret running her is the problem with democrats. They did something wrong because they lost. If they wanna blame racism/sexism, fine, but then they have to take accountability for having a black woman run as the only choice. If we’re saying that’s the reason I don’t wanna see them run this kind of campaign for another woman or POC. Give us our rights. I don’t care what the person who does that looks like.

Sorry for the rant. I’m sure we agree on most issues, I’m just absolutely livid. I’m beyond consolation. My best friend just had a miscarriage and was given medical care that Rs are trying to make illegal. She would have died without it. She’s still trying to convince. If this happens again in trumps America, I don’t know what her outcome would be. It feels hopeless when people just point at voters. Dems can’t change America, but they can change their platform. I hope they learn and do better, but that’s been my hope for too long. I’m losing faith.

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I don’t think you’re wrong but I also have to add that I won’t accept that we just can’t run black women for offices for that reason

e; I should have read this thread further, it looks like other people are already discussing this

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I am NOT implying that Dems shouldn’t run black women.

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I’m not pretending racism and sexism doesn’t exist, but that didn’t cause her to lose. I hope one day you’ll come to accept that.

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