Comment by hellomeatbag@lemmy.fmhy.ml on Recommendation to defederate from exploding-heads

That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of “allowing free speech”, rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the “all” page given that the entire instance actively breaks the rules of lemmy.one and is only providing them with a larger platform. I think a few trolls may have already spilled over.

just take a 20 second scroll through this mess or any of the other communities there: https://lemmy.one /c/dankmemes@exploding-heads.com

Just block it, or go to Threads if you enjoy a sterile environment

A site without bigots isn’t sterile

I don’t understand why you were downvoted. Lemmy gives us all the tools we need to block communities and users we don’t want to see. Is that not good enough? Do they want to control the experience for everyone else as well? Bunch of authoritarians in here.

They weren’t downvoted, this instance doesn’t even allow downvotes

They have 26 downvotes. You have two. You don’t see them because your instance doesn’t let you see them. We can see them from other instances.

Interesting, my understanding was that instances with no downvoting didn’t store any downvotes at all, so they would only exist in the instance of the user who made them, i.e. 26 people from your instance have downvoted that comment but there’s no info from other instances, is that not the case?

Ah, that is interesting. Maybe that’s exactly how it works. I’m learning something new about Lemmy every day.

Lemmy also gives you the possibility to set up your own instance and choose your own rules and who you federate with…

Exactly. If OP wants to defederated, they should go and set up their own instance. Why are they trying to control the experience for everyone else?

Probably because they’ve seen content they don’t like and instead of taking the personal responsibility of blocking it themselves, they want it done at the federation level.

More like I joined this instance because I agreed with its ruleset, and want to support this instances’ further success by alerting admins to major moderation issues before they snowball into a big problem.

The admin agreed, so sucks to your “free speech”.

You should feel proud, here’s a medal 🥇

Very much agreed it’s basic common sense

Exactly this. People have the tools and abilities to block these communities and domains if they don’t want to see that content. Pulling out the de-federation ban-hammer whenever you personally aren’t keen on the content isn’t a reasonable solution.

It’s all about control to them dude.

yeah how dare I want to tell homophobes to shut the hell up. It’s so controlling and authoritarian, oh no.

edit: and what exactly are we “controlling” anyway? All this would do is support the ruleset that exists on lemmy.one. If you want to go take part in that hate, go sign up with exploding-heads; it will continue to exist, we just will not be providing a larger platform for them.

Yes of course they do. That’s what they want

All the downvotes to this comment are ridiculous. Everyone on this site has the ability to block any instance they want. Want “X” instance off your front page? Guess what, you can do that with the click of a button.

You can’t block whole instances

That’s not a feature. If you want to block an entire instance, you have to appeal to an admin to defederate, or you have to run your own instance and add them to your blacklist

Or you just block any communities from the instance you don’t like. It’s slightly less convenient than one button for the whole instance, but it does the same thing.

Or your instance can defederate instances that go against their principles (the whole point of defederation) and you can create an account on the other.

I don’t like the concept of the owners of instances acting like dictators. We had that on Reddit. No point in being on Lemmy if that’s the ethos. I’d rather the owners let us decide our own experience.

Not accepting intolerance isn’t being a dictator. Plus you can just switch instance if you don’t agree with it’s moderation.

The whole point of federation is shit communities can be dropped if they don’t match up with your instances ideals.

The instance admins don’t want the hassle of moderating content from bad instances and it’s totally up to them.

If people don’t like it they can move. No Biggie.

Wasnt that supposed to be the entire fucking point? That’s why when everyone was saying the fediverse is the next thing since sliced bread, I was like nah dude, you really falling for that shit? It’s all about the power of isolation. Lemmy won’t last very long. Everyone will eventually be segregated and by doing that, it creates lower amounts of user content. We’ll 1000 instances with 30 ppl on each. Yea makes real sense. Great fucking idea not to mention the 1k accounts you’ll need to use those instances

It’s a feature on kbin.

Okay. This is a conversation about two lemmy instances

TIL. It kind of blows my mind that Lemmy doesn’t have this feature. It seems like one of the first things you would provide to users when building something in the Fediverse.

True, but the important point should be that this feature is implemented elsewhere, so that should probably be brought over, giving users the ability to dictate the content they view.

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