Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?

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Please tell me you haven’t been creating accounts on every instace. You can register on one instance then use that account to interact with content and communities on all other instances.

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No, but some people are discussing about creating new logins, so I want to clarify. Thanks for the clarification.

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Some people do make this mistake, I’ve seen a thread or two asking about it after they already started. We’ll need a proper solution eventually, likely education/tutorial-based.

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26 points

The problem will stay there as long as lemmy links don’t automatically redirect to your instance in somr way.

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True, but changing this is unfortunately unfeasible with the way the web works. If I just access the URL of a post on instance A, there is no reasonable way for it to know that my home instance is B.

There should at least be a button or something that sends you to your home instance after entering the domain though. Other than that, we’ll have to keep using browser addons and userscripts

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Literally every single explanation of Lemmy or fediverse that I have seen makes this really clear. I don’t understand where people would get the idea that you have to sign up to every site.

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It is really clear until a newb tries to use it:

  • Someone gives you a link, or you find it in search
  • You click on the link, because that’s what you do with links
  • It takes you to what you are looking for, but it says you have to log in to comment or vote
  • You log in so you can comment or vote

The UX for interacting with off-instance subs is abysmal. What is even worse is that as far as I can tell, there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent.

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Because when you click a link out of link Google or something you try to login and it says your login doesn’t work. To actually view that page properly you have to copy the link go you home instance and search it again then go to the post and then you can interact with it. Some people either A. don’t realize that or B. Don’t understand that’s how it all functions. It confused the shit out of me for the first couple days but I just didn’t care enough to create a new account because my account “should” have worked there I just didn’t know how to make that happen.

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And now we know how the Fediverse got all that users in the last period 😆

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As a newb to Fediverse, I agree because it is ambiguous how to use one account for several instances. I’ve browsed the web for several hours. But I only found out that the above is not a one-size-fits-all because some instances require registration.

Also, saying that an account can be created to access communities in my experience, implies I can only see and minimally interact on those instances. But I cannot go as far as posting anything because as I previously stated, I need an account on the said instance to do that.

I see the Fediverse being an umbrella of apps/services. However, from my experience, they’re not synchronized. More like silos.

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Yeah, it’s a bit of an issue, there’s a lot of concepts that can get subtly mis-communicated. I wrote this awhile ago, as I felt it helps navigate more intuitively when you have a full top-level view of the whole idea in the first place:

https://lemmy.world/post/527260

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9 points

Yes but it’s a bit of a mess to interact with lemmy from a Mastodon account though.

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No some communities need a new login. lemmy NSFW has no content without it. th there’s the issue of having a slow instance like world vs another instance

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You don’t need a new a account for this, just make sure you have “Show NSFW” enabled in your profile.

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Not exactly because some instances defederate other instances. I’m pretty sure lemmynsfw is defederated by some instances (like Beehaw I think??), meaning you’d need an account on another instance in order to most properly view and participate.

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21 points

Also it’s kinda practical to have an alt for lemmynsfw since account activity is openly available

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PornLemmy.com shows all comment even without an account

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Does lemmynsfw.com and pornlemmy.com federate?

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this is the sturm and drang of every collaborative work I guess. Those led by a single person / company will produce a more streamlined but restrictive product. Those led by committee produce a more chaotic but free experience.

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Others have already said, but I will reinterate:

You have to go to your account settings and enable “Show NSFW”. It is off by default.

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Nah, it’s been enabled, it’s literally just that instance that wont show anything without an account on their instance.

Unless you mean the setting for my *.world account can be on everywhere else but OFF on the *nsfw instance alone??

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Yes, and no. You can access lemmy and kbin instances from mastadon. But the format doesn’t work so well I think. I’m not sure how far it goes and how viable it is though. I’m not on mastadon.

But once you have an account on one of the threadiverse instances, defederation aside the same content should be available.

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Yeah I think the main actually viable use case for the fact that Lemmy and Mastodon can cross-interact is just when a Mastodon user gets @mentioned on Lemmy and is able to reply to it from there. And vice versa. You don’t want to actually be browsing Lemmy from Mastodon.

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From my understanding, yes. You can also follow Lemmy communities on mastodon and have their posts show up in your feed. @fediverse@lemmy.world I believe that’s the right format? Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I’m wrong.

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Yes, you can. See my post I made on lemmy.world - showing up in the feed of @fediverse@lemmy.world using my mastodon.social account (in the mastodon app). For that to work you have to have the community address and look for it via the search on the mastodon instance.

Screenshot is made in the mastodon instance.

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I registered on a bunch and they all went down except for the biggest ones

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