Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?

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Some people do make this mistake, I’ve seen a thread or two asking about it after they already started. We’ll need a proper solution eventually, likely education/tutorial-based.

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The problem will stay there as long as lemmy links don’t automatically redirect to your instance in somr way.

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True, but changing this is unfortunately unfeasible with the way the web works. If I just access the URL of a post on instance A, there is no reasonable way for it to know that my home instance is B.

There should at least be a button or something that sends you to your home instance after entering the domain though. Other than that, we’ll have to keep using browser addons and userscripts

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Literally every single explanation of Lemmy or fediverse that I have seen makes this really clear. I don’t understand where people would get the idea that you have to sign up to every site.

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It is really clear until a newb tries to use it:

  • Someone gives you a link, or you find it in search
  • You click on the link, because that’s what you do with links
  • It takes you to what you are looking for, but it says you have to log in to comment or vote
  • You log in so you can comment or vote

The UX for interacting with off-instance subs is abysmal. What is even worse is that as far as I can tell, there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent.

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there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent

I’m commenting mainly as a reminder to myself to check back later if someone comes in with a correction.

That said, the answer to this in the long term should be for the front ends (Lemmy UI, Jerboa, Sync for Lemmy, etc.) to be smart about this. My Mastodon app, Megalodon, does it. If you click a link to a post in another instance, it automatically looks up the same post from your instance and takes you there. It’s a little slower (and Megalodon shows you a button to short-circuit it and just go to that URL if you don’t care to be on your instance), but it lets you interact with the post as normal.

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Because when you click a link out of link Google or something you try to login and it says your login doesn’t work. To actually view that page properly you have to copy the link go you home instance and search it again then go to the post and then you can interact with it. Some people either A. don’t realize that or B. Don’t understand that’s how it all functions. It confused the shit out of me for the first couple days but I just didn’t care enough to create a new account because my account “should” have worked there I just didn’t know how to make that happen.

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7 points

The process to open a link on your home instance is just way too complicated right now. Some sort of browser presence could help redirect users to the right places.

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And now we know how the Fediverse got all that users in the last period 😆

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As a newb to Fediverse, I agree because it is ambiguous how to use one account for several instances. I’ve browsed the web for several hours. But I only found out that the above is not a one-size-fits-all because some instances require registration.

Also, saying that an account can be created to access communities in my experience, implies I can only see and minimally interact on those instances. But I cannot go as far as posting anything because as I previously stated, I need an account on the said instance to do that.

I see the Fediverse being an umbrella of apps/services. However, from my experience, they’re not synchronized. More like silos.

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Yeah, it’s a bit of an issue, there’s a lot of concepts that can get subtly mis-communicated. I wrote this awhile ago, as I felt it helps navigate more intuitively when you have a full top-level view of the whole idea in the first place:

https://lemmy.world/post/527260

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