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A Palestinian state wouldn’t fix it either, considering that Hamas and similar groups in the area very explicitly want ALL the territory and want Israel to not exist at all.

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Great, then it’s solved. The only solution is genocide. Doesn’t matter which side, just pick one, and kill them all.

That is what you’re saying, right?

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Don’t necessarily have to pick one. Both would solve it too.

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There is no good solution to the current state of things.

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Good is relative. What you mean is that there isn’t a perfect solution. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

So if your argument is that a two state solution isn’t perfect, therefore we shouldn’t do it, then that’s tacit approval for my first solution…a final solution if you will. Just pick a side, and poof.

If you’re not comfortable with genocide, then a two state solution is the only viable path forward with any hope of chance of being made into a good outcome, even if not a perfect one.

So pick one: a final solution or a two-state solution, but stop with the wishy-washy “the status quo must remain until a perfect solution is found”.

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Hamas has explicitly said they would accept the 1969 borders with no settlers, no IDF presence, and an actual Palestinian state that’s not controlled by Israel.

So try again.

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The same Hamas whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people? Sure.

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Go read it. No seriously. Stop letting Israel tell you what it says, and actually go read it.

Here’s the link.

They clearly do not like Zionism and would love to have the entire region back. But they lay out their demands for peace pretty clearly.

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An Israeli state wouldn’t fix it either, considering that Kahanites and similar groups in the area very explicitly want ALL the territory and want Palestine to not exist at all.

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You’re down voted for truth.

Many Palestinians would probably be happy for recognition of state I imagine but Hamas very likely would not. It’s currently a convenient excuse for them but if it happened I highly doubt they would stop trying to lob missiles over the border and be a peaceful neighbour, even if Israel stopped trying to steal land.

Not saying it shouldn’t happen but it’s not some magical solution like many seem to think.

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Israel has been building settlements in the West Bank for years. To say nothing of their bombings in Lebanon. They are a state that consistently does not respect borders.

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Yeah these Guys are so wrong in their argument

‘hAmAS wOnT aCCept a TwO sTaTE SoLuTIOn sO LeTs GEnOciDe pAlesTiniAnS’

Well Netanyahu and right wing Israelis also won’t, include that part as well, the only way is by forcing both of them by some way

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If they didn’t stop they would lose all support. They’ve explicitly said they’d accept a Palestinian state with the 1969 borders or a single state solution with rights for everyone.

At the end of the day though, those are also just the best solutions. Genocide certainly ain’t it.

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