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“Electable” is a subjective, moving goalpost.

You can easily discount Biden as being “electable” from polls that show him losing to Trump.

No one is excited for him, the most anyone can manage is that he beat Trump once, and after Gaza many people are markedly upset with the prospect of voting for him.

Point being, your question is inherently flawed: no one is voting for Biden because it’s Biden, people are only going to vote because the other person has an ‘R’ next to their name, and even more people if that person is Trump. You could probably pick a registered Democrat at random and if they were the general election candidate see them do nearly as well as Biden, barring the crusty pro-Biden fossils who would withhold their votes out of spite.

And yes, I think there are actually politicians on the “left” that you could replace him with and have a much better chance of winning, Newsom (regardless of my issues with him) being the most obvious answer.

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I get the idea of voting not-R vs excited to vote for the Dem. But Hillary Clinton would like a word.

I’m old. In almost every election it has been the same for me. Vote for the lesser of the evils. I would vote for a very progressive candidate if I thought they would have a chance. When I was young I did vote 3rd part a few times.

Voting for the lesser of the evils isn’t exciting but you know what, it has been a vastly better plan seeing a Dem, any dem in power, than the R alternatives in my life. Compare to, Reagan, Bush, Shrub, and Mr Indictment.

For this current election, it is crazily out of balance. Contrary to popular opinion (real or manufactured) I believe Biden has been a good president. The Israel situation is deeply depressing and I am not happy with how that has been handled but I guarantee the world will be a much, much worse place with vastly more severe consequences if Biden loses.

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I believe Biden has been a mostly-decent president, apart from the whole providing-weapons-for-genocide thing, or the whole authorizing-fossil-fuel-extraction-on-federal-lands-after-expicitly-promising-not-to thing, or the whole campaigning-for-more-police thing, or the whole aggressive-deportations-of-assylum-seekers thing… Oh wait.

And don’t get me wrong, I don’t want Trump to win; but I’m becoming more certain he will, barring a criminal conviction. Biden is weak, and getting weaker, as a candidate.

And you already have the DNC preparing for it, too, putting out op-eds about how if Biden loses, it will have been the fault of RFK, or West, or Bernie, or literally whoever else they can pin it on.

And at some point, if all you’re doing is choosing the lesser-genocider, where any potential non-genociders are being actively sabotaged and removed from your options as a voter, you’re not in a democracy, you’re in a facade that makes you believe you have Representation, so you won’t repeat what happens when you don’t believe that.

And I’m not sure what you mean about Hillary wanting a word; she is the poster child for “not excited to vote for”, and what happens when you force that candidate through anyways.

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believe Biden has been a mostly-decent president, apart from the whole

Yeah, But can you name any president in the last 70 years from either party who didn’t bend over for Isreal?

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