I bought 175 g pack of salami which had 162 g of salami as well.

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wouldnt weight slightly fluctuate with moisture content?

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I had to explain to my kids the other day how you don’t ever wish death on anyone. I was just going to ask if OP lives somewhere dry, because that would explain why they’re seeing this with so many foods.

People might be wondering wtf there’s no moisture in dry pasta. But there is: it will absorb moisture content from the surrounding atmosphere.

I had to learn about this effect because of woodworking. Wood absorbs enough moisture to appreciably change in size over the seasons, to the point where your whole table can crack in half if it’s built the wrong way.

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Yeah what about the other one, like drops on a cold beer?

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can I see a pic out the box with it above weight stated?

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Also, could it be the weight with the box?

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When you see “Net weight” or a symbol that looks like a big minuscule “e”, it means that the package weight doesn’t count.

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I don’t see anything like that in OP’s picture.

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8 grams? I doubt very much a cardboard box only weighs 8 grams.

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You’re correct

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I think its a fair question from a certain perspective.

However, the law requires that the package contents contain at least as much as stated. If humidity is an issue, it’s up to the manufacturer to factor that in. Besides, this is dry pasta my friend.

I also bought salami. It was 13 g short. It’s produced in the plant 4km from me.

There are no excuses to short the customer and it is illegal.

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Why are you getting downvoted? Why is Lemmy defending rich corporations and not consumers??

You opened dry pasta in a dry room and got less than the advertised amount. If there’s residual moisture in the factory that evaporates, that is their problem, not ours. Yes it’s a small variation, but that reasoning works both ways: they should include a few extra strands to make sure the consumer gets the right amount.

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And that’s literally how we got the bakers dozen.

If your dozen of baked goods wasn’t above a threshold you would be harshly punished. So bakers would give an extra so there’s no way they would get in trouble.

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So interesting. I always thought the bakers dozen came from the fact that tue baker would make 13 so they had one for themselves

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It is not illegal to sell a single container under the listed net weight.

The net weight must not be under the average weight of a sample of packages. There’s a whole set of rules for maximum allowable variance and for packages under a pound, it’s a little more than 7 grams.

Your scale is almost certainly not accurate enough to tell the difference a few tenths of a gram would make.

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ha, define dry (youll need to be precise). how long in the atmosphere is a packaged product warrantied to hold its weight? just curious

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No you’re not curious lol You’re doing textbook sea lioning

Go find someone else to mildly anmoy

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If you want to get technical, aren’t grams a measure of mass, not weight, so a kitchen scale needs to assume a value for gravity’s acceleration to tell you grams, which could be slightly off depending where you are on earth?

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I thought that you were on to something and did a quick google search: the variation is apparently only 0.5%. And a variation that big is only found when comparing a measurement on the poles (heavier) vs the equator (lighter) and I think it unlikely that this pasta was made on Antarctica. So nope, it’s not the reason, they really do owe the op 2 grams of pasta.

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here ya go

tldr; why not both

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Volume is not mass, and neither of them is weight. A gram is strictly speaking a measure of mass, and we just consider it to be a unit of weight in casual terms because the only frame of reference the vast majority of us have has reasonably constant gravity so we conflate mass and weight. That you can sort of use grams to measure volume is literally only because the density of common stuff (especially water) is close enough for most purposes. It’s kinda like measuring a distance in units of time so long as the method of travel is known. I can say “an hour’s walk” and I’m not really measuring distance there but you know roughly how far I mean

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So they package it wet? If the weight went down it means the pasta was wetter at time of boxing.

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not wet, but probably not nearly as dry, per se. also, fluctuations in temperature (specifically, mass of air in the packaging), as well as calibration issues on the devices- if you use two devices to measure… you’ll always get slightly off measurements.

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It’s far more likely that this is just weight variation which is allowable per the Food Safety and Inspection Service

However, I would sooner blame the scale itself as it doesn’t look like a scientific scale. So it’s likely not calibrated and will drift over time. Plenty of things could explain an 8g difference as measured by the average joe.

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RH during packing 55%, RH in OPs house 25%

Just different conditions, even his their (sorry) neighbors house could have a different RH and different results.

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yeah, but that doesnt mean much. the hoover damn is still drying.

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The Hoover Dam concrete would cure in 125 years by conventional or natural methods. Crews, however, used some innovative engineering methods to hasten the process.

Nearly 600 miles of steel pipes woven through the concrete blocks significantly reduced the chemical heat from the setting for the concrete. Crews relied on 1,000-pound blocks of ice produced daily at the site’s ammonia-refrigeration plant.

Would have doesn’t mean is. Source

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So is all the water it’s holding back 😱

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yeah. 8g is a tiny weight difference here and could easily be accounted-for due to humidity with pasta. it’s about the weight of 3-4 strands of that pasta

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Idk about that. When I worked in a factory we always measured 510 g into our 500 g packages in order to avoid this happening. You’re getting ripped off and making excuses for it.

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Could also just be losing a strand or two in packaging. It happens. That’s why they’re allowed some wiggle room on the packaging weight, and 8 grams is a pretty reasonable margin of error for a product like this.

Shrinkflation is definitely a thing, but this isn’t a good example.

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The same package in Germany is 500g, so maybe there is an element of shrinkflation as well.

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It’s also why the target is 410 was of 400 I’d imagine .

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