Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu…::Parisians have voted to increase parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.

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66 points

I think restrictions like these should also include SUV EVs. Safety is the bigger priority than incentivizing a few more EV sales and in the future, there may only be EVs anyway.

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I’d love it if there were a wide range of offerings for EVs that aren’t crossovers/SUVs. Once you take them off the list, it’s slim pickings. Doubly so if you want range over 200mi, and doubly so again if you refuse to buy a Tesla.

“You can try the Mustang Mach-E, that doesn’t have much SUV in it.”

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It includes electric vehicles over two tonnes, and hybrids/gas over 1.6 tonnes

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Oversized vehicles are just as destructive to the environment, regardless of whether they are EV or not. In order to move that much mass, they require exponentially more electricity, which results in increased battery size and therefore more mass.

This isn’t a flaw EVs per se, it is a flaw of obnoxiously obese vehicles.

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3 points

Well they also exempt taxis and city residents so it’s not about safety or the environment it’s about the money.

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5 points

Not being snarky: if it were about the money, would city residents NOT be exempt?

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2 points

No good point, I appreciate discussions!

I think they know if it didn’t exempt city residents there would be enough backlash from eligible voters it wouldn’t pass. Seeing as it’s a fine and not a ban it can have secondary effects of improving safety and the environment but primarily it will raise money.

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All SUV should be banned, but at least city residents pay taxes to the city. Sub urbanites think that they own the city and try to force it’s habitats to accept an insecure, congested, and contaminated city because is comfortable for them. If you don’t want to live in the city, it’s OK, but don’t pretend the city have to back forward for you (not talking about you personally, talking about people who lives in suburbs).

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I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but where I live rent in the city works out to about two thirds of my annual income and I have a well paying job (above average for my city).

So - living in the suburbs is not really a life style choice. I can afford a very comfortable home in the outer suburbs, while in the inner city I could only afford to rent a small bedroom with a shared kitchen/bathroom/living space. And since we have a child, a share house isn’t really an option (I did live that way when I was younger).

And while I love cycling to work I can’t do it often, because it takes almost 4 hours (two hours each direction). I can take a bus, but that’s even slower (since I have to go to the CBD first, then take another bus across town to the non-CBD area where I work). The bus also costs more than twice as much as driving. Driving, by the way, takes 30 minutes.

Since I live in the outer suburbs anyway, with nice wide roads, unlimited free parking, I choose to take advantage of it by spending a lot of time outdoors where if you want a cold beer, you need to bring a fridge. If you want a hot meal, you need to bring a full kitchen. If you want to take a canoe out the water, you need to bring a canoe with you, etc etc. So, we have an SUV. And we’re not going to give it up. Sorry.

If my city banned SUVs, I’d probably just start taking taxis instead. I’m not sure that would be better for the environment or local traffic. Definitely wouldn’t affect my daily life, since I don’t live or work in the CBD.

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32 points

Honestly, they should just ban all SUVs from entering altogether.

Not because of the environment or safety, just because I hate that everything is an SUV these days and they are boring af

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2 points

That would mean lots of people would have to buy a new car, which is much worse for the environment than to keep driving an SUV

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8 points

Or people could just take the train or walk.

Remember, we’re talking about Paris, not a third world country in North America.

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Honestly, they should just ban all SUVs from entering altogether.

That’s not going to convince me to sell my SUV. It’d just cause me to buy a second car.

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13 points

Cool. Let idiots put some more money into economy. Or they can ask for public transport.

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16 points

It’s the carcinization of vehicles, they’ve all become the same thing.

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4 points

Looks at Rivian, Hummer EV, and Cybertruck having crab walk features… yeah

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