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The system of violence, subjugation, discrimination, hatred and prejudice that directly oppresses women.

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And your definition of misandry?

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A hypothetical system of discrimination against directly and specifically men. I do not agree that this system exists. Our ruling class is patriarchal and men hold significantly disproportionate amounts of power in society. There is no system of discrimination that affects all men as a class. There exists biases and discrimination against men, but nothing that does so using the structure of a system and through institutional power.

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What would you call an individual’s feeling of hatred of or superiority to women? That’s the popular definition of misogyny, not the systemic issues. Usually the system itself is called the patriarchy.

Likewise, an individual’s feelings of hatred or superiority to men is popularly called misandry, which absolutely exists. I don’t think there’s any such thing as a “matriarchy” systemically oppressing men anywhere in the world.

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There exists biases and discrimination against men, but nothing that does so using the structure of a system and through institutional power.

So you wouldn’t actually consider societal pressures against men as misandry? You wouldn’t consider the structures that force men to disregard their own emotions to take on provider roles as misandry. You don’t see men commiting sucide at 3 times the rate of women significant enough of a qualifier? You don’t see how influences like these connect back to men having to be “hard”. You don’t see how men are used and disregarded by society? Like I am literally missing a piece of my body, and it’s just socially accepted.

Like men aren’t just in power, men are pushed towards power.

And… I just realized you acknowledge toxic masculinity. So toxic masculinity does effect all men, on societial and institutional levels, which fits your definition of misandry.

[…] biases and discrimination against men […] using the structure of a system and through institutional power.

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