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Lol why are people here on lemmy so obsessed with classes?

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Edit: Great question, thanks for asking!

Division of the working class keeps us fighting ourselves, while the people with money and power keep the status quo.

Great activists in US history have tried to unite the working class, but sadly they tend to get assasinated…


I thought this video would explain where some of us have learned how the class system works.

Economist Richard Wolff explains our class society.

How Class Works – by Richard Wolff [12:36]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3pAuLuko

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Lemmy is a FOSS answer to the failings of Capitalist Reddit. Everyone who doesn’t care enough is on Reddit, leaving Lemmy with tons of leftists who do care enough.

There’s also Linux, Privacy, and other FOSS things, but FOSS in general aligns with leftist views.

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FOSS also aligns with free market capitalist views.

I’m not here because Reddit is capitalist, I’m here because Reddit sucks. I don’t like new Reddit or the Reddit app, and I certainly don’t like the tracking they do. Lemmy seems to be the closest alternative and is good enough, so I’m here.

I consider myself libertarian (not US libertarian party, but ideologically libertarian, like Penn Jillette) and I’ve been a FOSS enthusiast for decades. I contribute to FOSS because I enjoy it and honestly think FOSS projects work better than their alternatives. I don’t do it out if some social obligation or whatever, I do it because it just seems to work better. I disagree politically with the creators of this project, yet I’ve contributed code and enjoy the work they’ve done.

Just an alternative perspective.

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FOSS does not align with Free Market Capitalist views, because it’s a rejection of individual ownership of property, and a rejection of the profit motive. That’s like saying being kind to your neighbor aligns with Free Market Capitalist views, I’m sure Free Market Capitalists think that’s a good idea but it in no way aligns with their ideology on the basis of Free Market Capitalism, it’s unrelated.

The reasons you described hating Reddit, notably the forced usage of new Reddit and the Reddit App, as well as the tracking they do, is because Reddit is a Capitalist entity. The reason for all of this is so Reddit can make money off of owning the IP.

Believing honestly that FOSS works better than the alternatives is a leftist stance. Leftism isn’t about social obligation, but a belief that individual ownership and thus enforced hierarchy is a bad thing.

You should probably do some introspection.

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I am sorry for you.

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Short answer is a person’s class, and the class they serve, is the single most important factor for the amount of power an individual is capable of gaining in society. Class in this context is how you get the money you need to live. The owning class get that money by owning businesses, land, buildings, or intellectual property. The working class gets it by working.

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Because the principle struggle is the class struggle between the working class and the owning classes, all other strugles are either secondary, incidental, or made up in order to distract us from the principle strugle, or a combination of the above. Once one learns this, the world starts to lock into a better prospective and we can start working to our ultimate goal, making a stew from the Rich

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all other strugles are either secondary, incidental, or made up in order to distract us from the principle strugle

I’ve heard this from syndicalists so many times as an excuse for disinvesting from any other contemporary struggle. They end up alienating everyone who cares for more than one issue.

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First, I am not a syndicalist, I know that is not important but I feel I should mention it, because as the meme goes, there is no one a leftist hates more than a sligtly difrent leftist.

I also never said “do not care about other issues” or “other strugles do not exist” I would also be wrong to say to disinvest from the suffering from others, however it is important to remember that 1) the primary struggle is that of class, and second most of those secondary and tertiary struggles, atleast under the status quo, can be traced back to the primary struggle, and that we cannot get a true and proper fix for them, or atleast it is significatly harder to do, if we do not work on fixing the primary struggle

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Sexism is not solved with more female CEOs.

Racism is not solved with billionaire POCs.

Queerphobia is not solved with more LGBTQ+ media representation.

The primary oppression is of the working class, and being a member of any of these marginalised groups simply fast tracks you to working class.

That’s not to say there aren’t systemic prejudices. Of course there are. But these primarily serve to keep the group of elites small and ever more exclusive.

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