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52 points

Will Russia have it in a few years?

Lmao, Avdeevka was a full on route, soldiers were abandonig their positions contrary to their orders. This could end in a few months, and at this rate could even be a few weeks (tho I doubt so but you never know)

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38 points

This could end in a few months

And then begins the slow and tedious counter-terrorist phase. Look at the second Chechnya war and the subsequent events

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42 points

I also guarantee NATO is preparing “stay-behind” operations GLADIO style right now. gotta fight to the last Ukrainian after all.

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It still sucks but it would be a huge improvement over the current “grind thousands upon thousands of barely trained conscripts into red paste” phase

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35 points

I hope for a end to this war every single day, lets hope its weeks and not months.

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14 points

really doubt it, i mean look at the map, its still just small gains

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War for territory is the western idea of the war in Ukraine, but it is clearly and explicitly contradictory to what the russian government has stated as official goals and strategy. Small territorial gains? Yes, but the russian objective is “demilitarization” and the only way to demilitarize a state that is unwilling to do it is to destroy their army and their ability to fight. Even the 3rd assault brigade, what’s left of the infamous Azov Battalion, refused their orders to counter attack on the flanks of Avdeevka and there are reports and rumors that Zelensky might move /legally/politically against them. If even the most fanatical of their forces refuse to fight, then the rest of the army might stop following orders soon enough. That is a recipe for disaster in Ukraine, and at the least expected moment it all can get out of control for the government in Kiev. Not to mention that Zelensky’s term is about to end, and who knows what will happen after that, since the country is really in no position to hold elections.

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I understand that they aren’t there to eat Ukraine, I’m more pointing out that this still seems to be a stalemate. I feel like if they take kharkiv or something that would be a more obvious sign of the war coming close to an end

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the only way to demilitarize a state that is unwilling to do it is to destroy their army and their ability to fight

all the more reason for Russia to move aggressively to envelop and destroy elements of the UAF like those ‘routing’ from these front line positions—if this is still too dangerous for Russia, the UAF must not be in that bad of a spot

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