Apple has decided to remove Progressive web apps from iOS in EU. If you have a business in the EU or serve EU users via Web App/PWA, we must hear from you in the next 48 hours!

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Users should be allowed to use whatever they want and not be restricted by an asshole company that “respects privacy” when in reality it’s just about control.

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That sounds a lot like the old windows 95 and dos days where the expectation was that the os would never stand in the way of even the most obviously malicious software.

I don’t want to go back to those days and even the most freedom loving environments have dropped support for operations like direct memory mapped io and more pertinent to the topic of our discussion, web technologies like flash and inline pdf rendering.

I get that it feels like someone is trying to take something away from you, but you gotta recognize that the thing they’re taking away is basically a gun pointed at your own foot.

I run a lot of systems that allow you to screw up, but I don’t have any complaints about one that doesn’t, especially when it’s on mobile: a platform with a much higher risk, reward for compromise, higher user trust and higher level of obfuscation regarding what’s happening under the hood.

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Sure but PWAs are not a big deal at all.

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It’s weird then that Firefox on the desktop doesn’t support them.

Just think on why that might be. Why both Mozilla and Apple would be opposed to something that Google is in favor of.

I mean, if pwas are no big deal then surely a platform other than chromium and android combined would be gladly embracing this new technology.

I’m really not trying to argue from a position of aged authority, but pwas are bad. I know because every time some way to make a webpage just like a program and also escape the browser has come up it’s been bad.

And when you look at it as a power struggle between big corporations pwas are being pushed by Google, the bad one.

I know that’s not convincing so let me ask you this: what would be? What would convince you that despite Apple being your enemy, pwas are bad?

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