Ignoring the security implications, I miss kb large old raw html websites that loaded instantly on DSL internet. Nowadays shit is too fancy because hardware allows that, but I feel we’re just constantly running into more bugs first and then worry about them later.

Edit: I’ve thought more about it, and I think I just missed the simplicity of the internet back then. There’s just too much bloat these days with ad trackers and misinformation. I kinda forgot just how bright and eye jarring most old UIs were lol.

89 points

You know what I miss? When information was condensed instead of spread out to insert more ads. When software willingly gave you all the options you could ever need instead of removing most of them because “people might get confused”. When website took up the entire screen instead of a mobile wide strip in the middle because “it can be scary for people”.

Fuck everyone who keeps lowering the bar of tech literacy just to appeal to the general public.

permalink
report
reply
8 points

I literally have a vertical monitor to avoid the middle strip of text problem. It especially sucks for higher resolution monitors, it just feels like so much wasted space on the left and right side of the article.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

The most used e-commerce platform on my country does this for the map for in store pick ups when selecting where the package is sent. The map is basically a long vertical strip and the actual map area occupies maybe 10-5% of a 1440p monitor.

Drives me nuts every time I have to use it

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

This is very true on anything above say 1080p and 100% scaling. I have 2x 1440p monitors and the strip of text in the middle is… way too prevent. That said, I have no idea how you would fill my monitor with useful information and have it scale. I’ve embraced running four columns of windows most of the time. Sometimes it’s two columns on one monitor and a full screen something on my other.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

If I’m doing documents, it’s basically columns so I can read it like papers. But then one day I just decided to turn a monitor into one big column. Turns out finding wallpapers for it is pretty easy too because mobile wallpapers work.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Yep, this is all a matter of window management. Having a 2000px wide column of text is terrible for readability.

I run a 4k tv as the equivalent of four monitors. Normally I have four windows, but sometimes I use a whole half of the screen for an IDE. Some apps like Spotify I run at one eighth of the screen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Click next after each paragraph of the story so I can load more ads! And by paragraph, I mean one <p> tag per sentence.</p>

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I miss the time when UI was utilitarian. None of that rounded corners and fancy themes nonsense. Function over form.

permalink
report
parent
reply
67 points

Not that unpopular an opinion I bet.

permalink
report
reply
19 points

Google thinks otherwise :(

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

Unfortunately, Google is also complicit in this

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

The Google front page is no longer plain HTML but apparently, they spent a lot of time optimising the logo so it could load in less than a second on a dial-up connection. It’s still remarkably plain when compared to other search engines though.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I saw a web page from 1999 today and as a full stack dev I immediately clicked away bc obvi NSFW

BUT then I had the urge to go back to this simple ass web “site” and just admire it for a second like “wow, someone probably spent weeks on this 2 day design”.

Tbh afterwards I was kind of in awe that every option was available on each page with no sidebars or extra clicks. Not slick but quick tho!

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

There was a design/development company which made sites and they bragged about making pixel perfect web sites. I can’t for the life of me find them again but I remember when I saw their portfolio it was like porn for web developers. Everything was done simply and with least amount of images possible, but it looked so good.

permalink
report
parent
reply
51 points

Ignoring the security implications.

There are literally none with basic html.

It’s when you started adding shit like Shockwave, javascript and the like, all massive security holes, things got dicey.

Plain old HTML, none what so ever.

permalink
report
reply
3 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
42 points

That’s a separate and unrelated issue of connection encryption, nothing to do with the contents of a site. You can totally have a basic HTML page served over HTTPS

permalink
report
parent
reply
-10 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

So is ASP, PHP, javascript and everything else.

And has nothing to do with HTML.

HTML is not HTTP.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-9 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
40 points

My friend, enjoy.

permalink
report
reply
11 points
*
permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Thank you

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Funny how sluggish browser feels on these old sites. I guess it would be obvious considering they try to optimize loading and rendering speeds based on trends and developer habits which didn’t exist back then, but still I would have thought simple HTML with monochrome background and very limited number of tags would load instantly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
34 points

I mean, there are basically no security implications for plain html.

permalink
report
reply
6 points

Oh, I just thought older websites were less secure. But I guess now that I think about it, you only got viruses if you clicked on the sketchy links yourself.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Raw HTTP with no protection is as dangerous as the activity implied by this innuendo.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Unpopular Opinion

!unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.

If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it’s something that’s widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)
  • If your post is a “General” unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS

Politics is everywhere. Let’s make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.

Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...

Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.

This shouldn’t need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

Community stats

  • 649

    Monthly active users

  • 423

    Posts

  • 15K

    Comments