Yup?

You’re right on the mark there: I missed the point, a good number of times, which sent me into a downward spiral.

It took a good amount of time and help to aknowledge I was responsible for 90% of my suffering.

And I was countering your reply.

So you try, you get turned down. Does it hurt? Yes. Is it the end of the world? If anyone replies with “yes” that is a serious issue because it is not.

Getting a “no” for an answer is almost guaranteed. What is there to lose? Perhaps the lost “yes” for not trying.

It goes above and beyond being feminist.

If a guy doesn’t want to go out with a girl that actively asked him out, he is plain, basic, stupid.

Bullshit.

It’s a social - stupid - standing that states romantic/social/sexual advances must be started by the male part, which automatically relegates the female part to a passive/subdued part.

If you want someone, be bold. Doesn’t matter how you define yourself either.

I don’t really care if you are shy and can’t speak or any coping mechanism you may have built to justify your awkwardess. Just try.

Write a note. Have a mutual friend act as a liaison to help the first step. Write a letter. Blurt out the most incoherent speech you can muster. Then say it all again, only ten times slower. Send smoke signals. Use a parrot or a crow. But try.

It hurts a lot more to punish yourself for not trying, later in your life. Failure and rejection are part of it. Get used to it. Learn from it.

I hope you get some of these.

FIAT Tipo

FIAT Tipo SW

FIAT 600 This is a full eletric.

FIAT Panda The original version was iconic. It had a full 4x4 version. Current models are stunning.

I tried to discover what was the line-up you have over there and it seems we get more from over there (essentially through the SUV line, from JEEP) than you receive from here.

What vehicles do you get under that badge?

this little car came out of the assembly line with 120hp.

For a car under 900kg of total weight, it is a lot of power. It would fishtail like an angry beast, burn rubber at a slip of the foot and make you crap yourself if you felt like pushing it a bit over the safety zone.

It was a defining car: you could buy it but it wasn’t guaranteed you’d own it.

Considering the amount of plastics going into the building of an SUV, I’d risk tge hot hatch would survive.

Really? That bad?

FIAT in the 90’s and early 00’s went through a really bad phase, due to Ferrari sinking millions into F1, to the point FIAT Brazil was more active than FIAT Europe developing new models.

FIAT are reliable. A few engines were less than good but FIAT has always been on the forefront of developing new technology into engines and cars. My first car, a cheap model, had direct fuel injection when most other manufacturers were still using carburettors (at best, eletrically controlled).

It’s even a joke between owners that FIAT cars don’t like mechanics but when they start doing, you’re better off changing cars.