Yes, worship violence and fire arms some more. That’s going to make the world a better place for sure!
‘you get further with a nice word and a gun than you do with a nice word alone’
If a fascist marches, do you ask them to please don’t do that? Do you march against them?
I hope anyone that touches a firearm drops dead on the spot. I don’t need adults with the mindset of a 8 year old in this world. I’m not debating anyone defending fire arms.
Question for you: would you rather all the guns be in the hands of the government? Because guns won’t disappear due to your wish. In countries all over the world, conflict is very real and not having guns would mean utter defeat for those fighting against fascists.
We get it, it would be a different world if guns were never invented. But they have been. And relinquishing that power to those that would see you not exist simply isn’t an option anymore.
@ackzsel @seahorse @Jaytreeman ah yes, marginalized people who are regularly threatened by violence, armed fascists, and the state being willing to use firearms to defend themselves and their right to exist are totally the ones with the mentality of an 8-year-old, not the person who thinks we should literally just roll over and let people beat us up and murder us and eliminate us from public life in order to preserve some perfect pacifist moral high ground because firearms are an ooo spooky evil shibboleth only “bad guys” touch and “all violence is bad.” Thinking all violence, even in self-defense, is bad regardless of the context is totally a mature and well thought through position and not an overly simplistic view of how morality works. Believing that using a specific implement of violence is bad simply because a group you don’t like likes that tool is totally adult thinking. Believing in pure pacifism in the face of genocidal evil as if that’s in any way practical or moral is totally a nuanced adult view of the world and not the most simplistic 5-year-old understanding of morality that you get from children’s cartoons.
That’s the entire point of the saying. You dont get shot with a nice word and a gun because you’re not unarmed. The reference to “nice word” in the second half is like saying, “you could try to wash dishes with good thoughts, but good thoughts and scrubbing with soap and water is more effective.”
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have their mere existence threatened by armed fascists on a daily basis.
Do you suggest people threatened with genocide defend themselves using …bitchslaps?
I used to be a pacifist. I was robbed at gunpoint in my home in the middle of the night, And I told them to take anything they wanted, but they stabbed my girlfriend anyway.
I was no longer a pacifist. She was cooperating, she was quiet, none of us were armed, but one of those wannabe thuglets still put a knife into her arm.
I was unable to continue rationalizing pacifism if it meant the people around me got hurt. I took that kids eye out with my bare hand and tore the door off my stove ragdolling his friend.
Violence doesn’t solve many problems, but it’s one of the only things that can solve violence. I don’t regret using violence to protect the people I care about.
I take this as a metaphorical statement, not literally advocating gun violence.
I agree wholeheartedly that, speaking in metaphorical terms, it’s useless placing flowers in the rifles that are ready to fire again. There comes a point where these absolute bigoted wankstains need to be called out, and have a fire started under the pedestals upon which they stand so damn proudly.
Given the context of what community this is on, I kinda think it speaks to the right to self defense and the right to exist in a social climate where rabid, violent, right wing extremists want to eliminate trans people in every way possible.
And, just to throw this out there, it is not morally wrong to defend yourself against lethal threat or threat of significant bodily harm. It is also legal in every state in the US (check state and local laws though, as there are nuances).
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Commenters: “but why are you posting about firearms though???”
I’m confused is this saying that LGBTQ people should arm themselves to protect themselves or is it saying that guns have the right to exist?
But “get bent” refers to sodomy, in a typically derogatory context. It’s like saying “this sucks dick” to mean, “this is bad” (read: people who suck dick = less than). It’s the same as people saying, “this is gay” to mean bad. So really, we should be phasing out the phrase “get bent.”
This reads to me as “I am not debating my right to exist [as a trans person or trans supporter]. I’m ready to defend myself and my allies if need be, to whatever extent is necessary. Back off or else.”
So it comes across as a call to be ready to fight back, which would mean that if you’re comfortable owning a gun or another weapon (or more comfortable owning a gun than not within the context of the current sociopolitical climate), it would be wise to have one on hand. I don’t take it as a literal call to arms, it’s more like an alternate, more direct/specific take on the Gadsden Flag. Not overtly hostile, but a clear warning that aggression will be responded to with an appropriate measure of self defense.
“Get bent” is kinda weak though lol.
I vote for “trans rights or else” for the white text