Please change the title of this post to match the title of the article so that I don’t have to remove it for violating Rule 4. THANK YOU!
This is the title that NBC put when I shared it. It was the title of the post at the time of sharing. I see now that they’ve removed the portion that says “pushed by conservatives”. Is that the part that you would like me to amend?
Damn. I guess the gop speaker will never compromise with the dems ever again.
EDIT: I meant in the context of the bill that mccarthy passed on Saturday with the help of the dems. Any new speaker will be very wary of pissing off the gaetz crowd.
tell me you haven’t been paying attention to republican politics since 2016, without, you know, telling me
Refusing to cooperate with Democrats is what sank him.
He needed support from Democrats to keep the Speakership. He’s spent the entire year giving them no reason to trust him – including going on the Sunday shows this week knowing this vote was coming and trying to blame Democrats for the near shutdown.
This. If he had just stuck to the deal that was agreed to with Biden, he’d probably still be speaker.
But no, he had to try and play both sides.
Now the fascists are going to get their speaker in and there will very likely be a shutdown in 45 days
The new speaker will only survive if the new speaker can get support from some of both parties. The lesson is clear.
McCarthy knew that a government shutdown would have pissed off even more Republicans in Congress, including all of those in vulnerable districts.
For example, Boebert’s district. Notice how for once she didn’t vote alongside Gaetz? Behind closed doors, there were plenty of Congressional Republicans telling McCarthy that making make a deal with Democrats was preferable to a politically suicidal shutdown.
McCarthy almost did the right thing by letting the funding bill come to the floor, but it also stripped Ukraine funding and was a can to kick things down the road giving us only 45 days till we’re in the same spot. He could have also offered consessions to the Dems for their vote, which he refused to do. Add to that what is a literal witchhunt of an Impechment inquiry, why do you think the Dems should have saved him?
I don’t think they should have saved him. I added some context to my comment, since everyone is thinking I meant something very different.
Call me old and cynical but I see the inevitable conclusion of this game that the conservatives have been playing being a civil war. This is what they are pysnigb for, this is what they want.
The reason they want this is because, well, they are extremist Christian terrorists and they’re plain evil. Dunno how else to say it. They don’t want gays to have any rights, they want gays converted or dead. They don’t want trans people to have rights and have a remote shred of happiness, they want them dead. They don’t give a shit about abortion, they want more babies in poor and breken families who are easy to manipulate into voting for them. Hell, they don’t want democracy, they want a theocracy.
They watched the handmaid’s tale and thought they were watching an awesome documentary. It contains all the elements that gets them hard; being able to force their religion upon others, being able to control others, rape others…
Imitgt be having a tinfoil hat on right now but I see these extremists come up with a document that wants to do away with democracy and have an all powerful president dictator, that outlines a plan to prohibit porn and even simply books that talk about transgender issues and jail anyone who produces or possesses such evils…
These are not nice people, at this point I think it’s safe enough to say that these are dangerous terrorists
I think the US is in much bigger trouble than most people see
You sound like Marjorie Taylor Greene lol. Things are nowhere as bad as you are projecting, we are all literally laughing at the Republican party (Republican party included).
If anything, this whole ordeal probably just saved us from going to civil war because it showed the country how dangerous this type of MAGA thinking in just 8 representatives can be.
I’ve seen many rather too prominent R party members talking casually about civil war. If that doesn’t at least make you frown then I think you might be a bit naive. Hitler too was a funny guy until he suddenly burst on the world stage. Trump too was laughed at a year before he was president
For the voters you maybe right. For the leaders, follow the money… It’s as simple as wealth and power.
Keep us “plebs” fighting on stupid shit so we don’t eat the rich. Terrorism recruiting strategy 101. Get people addicted to hate so it can be channeled against the opposition.
At least those are my insights.
Do we actually have to eat the rich? Can we just use them as fertilizer instead?
What really fucked up is the shit in handmaud book that was left out of the show
I’ve straight up had people say that in the wake of a birthrate crisis, Gilead would be completely justified.
I’m not an anti-natalist, but if the choice really was between Gilead and humanity dying out, I might reconsider.
Oh no.
Anyways…
Could have consequences for many people in the US. McCarthy at least wanted to keep things running even if he was extreme. The next guy may not.
I hope so but that’s far from certain. Unless the chaos from this is particularly memorable AND it causes relatively little harm to the American people, I don’t think that’s likely.
We’re still over a year from the election. People will barely remember this and it probably will factor minimally in their decisions in 2024.
Hate to say it but I doubt it. The people voting republican bought heavily into the idea that McCarthy was some kind of traitor and started calling him a RINO. They seem to live for this kind of chaos. They want things their way, and if they can’t have it the only alternative is burning it all down. Compromise is completely unacceptable to them hence McCarthy’s ouster.
