So, I got curious and set my feed to all. Wow, there a lot of arguments about defederation due to the Beehaw decision. Many Many people positing on “the death of Reddit” and the refugee crisis. I get some of the concerns about moderation and ideology but the amount of navelgazing is unreal. Ill just stick to local for a bit until things settle down.

So, how are you finding the big, wide fediverse outside of our pleasant little pocket? With all of the thinkpieces being posted about how Lemmy is never going to work, I wanted to see some fresh takes from the good folk at midwest.social.

5 points

The cool thing about Fediverse is that it doesn’t have to be the same thing everywhere. If people on lemmy.ml want it to be replacement reddit, more power to them. Personally I like the smaller feel of midwest.social.

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Every time I sort by subscribed it’s just beehaw posts for days. I get it, they’re a big instance, but it’s still annoying. I disagree with the people saying Lemmy won’t work. It’s already working as far as I’m concerned, just some growing pains is all. I think once instances have more concrete ideas about what they will/won’t tolerate things will settle down. Everyone is just kind of figuring this out on the fly at the moment.

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2 points

This ☝️👏👊

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3 points

i subscribed to almost nothing on beehaw.

Almost all I see are posts on the StarTrek lemmy. I suspect the sorting algos are highly broken, though.

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6 points

When I get tired of this, I really like filtering to Local and seeing what the people of Minnesota are up to, for instance.

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I think Lemmy is working as intended, indeed. People are coming in with all these preconceived notions. I know I’m new here but they could at least try to get to speed on how this place works rather than crushing it into deformed Reddit. Back in the early EARLY days of 4chan (before all the reasonable people left) we knew to start by lurking and jump in once you understand the zeitgeist of the space.

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9 points

Lemmy isn’t going anywhere. Reddit will survive. This isn’t a Reddit replacement, this is a whole new thing. I can’t completely abandon some of the subs. But I like this instance.

Grab the popcorn. Enjoy the drama. I actually forgot you could sort by all.

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17 points

There is a size that becomes a tipping point making participation feel pointless, and that’s when you start looking like what reddit became. IMO I prefer the small instances for participation, and the larger ones just for lurking.

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That’s not a bad way to look at it. I’m already treating Beehaw like the front page of Reddit and I just chat with ya’ll.

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2 points

As someone new to the whole fediverse thing… what is Beehaw, what’s going on, and why should I be concerned?

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From what I see, it is about their recent decision to defederate from two other big Lemmy instances (sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world), because these instances (where the registration is open, contrary to beehaw) bring a lot of trolls and moderation burden for Beehaw admins. They had a chat with sh.itjust.works admin staff and both are in agreement that until there are better mod tools, there’s not much more that can be done for now.

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The difference language between the sh.itjust.works admin and their user’s comments is kinda crazy. There were so many bad takes saying “this will destroy the lemmy-verse”. Like, no it won’t. The community will survive.

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Beehaw is the third largest instance (midwest.social is an instance). Beehaw decided to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjustworks, after some users from those instances were brigading beehaw posts, since they don’t have good enough mod tools to address it the way they’d like.

It should be a temporary measure until better mod tools are developed, and at that point they will consider refederating with those instances

In the meantime, that means users from those instances can’t interact with Beehaw users, and vice versa

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