So, I got curious and set my feed to all. Wow, there a lot of arguments about defederation due to the Beehaw decision. Many Many people positing on “the death of Reddit” and the refugee crisis. I get some of the concerns about moderation and ideology but the amount of navelgazing is unreal. Ill just stick to local for a bit until things settle down.
So, how are you finding the big, wide fediverse outside of our pleasant little pocket? With all of the thinkpieces being posted about how Lemmy is never going to work, I wanted to see some fresh takes from the good folk at midwest.social.
Every time I sort by subscribed it’s just beehaw posts for days. I get it, they’re a big instance, but it’s still annoying. I disagree with the people saying Lemmy won’t work. It’s already working as far as I’m concerned, just some growing pains is all. I think once instances have more concrete ideas about what they will/won’t tolerate things will settle down. Everyone is just kind of figuring this out on the fly at the moment.
I think Lemmy is working as intended, indeed. People are coming in with all these preconceived notions. I know I’m new here but they could at least try to get to speed on how this place works rather than crushing it into deformed Reddit. Back in the early EARLY days of 4chan (before all the reasonable people left) we knew to start by lurking and jump in once you understand the zeitgeist of the space.
I’m not local to midwest.social but I was just thinking of unsubscribing beehaw for a while because of this! It’s very reminiscent of the big surge of folks onto Mastodon last year - lots of “Fediverse can’t work because it isn’t the large corporate entity presently having a meltdown” and every other post is about whatever’s going on at Reddit.
I’ll never fail to marvel at people who believe the only way you can provide a service is via a massive corporation. The myopic nature of people assuming that just because we are doing now means that it is superior to other ways of operating. What they always fail to notice is that the massive corpo entity usually smothers things like this for market share (i.e facebook)
I was wondering about what would happen if you started a nonprofit and ran a Lemmy/Mastodon instance and charge like 1 or 2 bucks a month. So if it gets flooded with users you have money to scale it up. And hire admins and such. You get the stability and centralization of a corporation but no profit motive
my home instance is hosted by sdf.org, a 30+ year-old non-profit org that is sustained entirely by voluntary donation (as in membership is free). You should look them up.
All that drama is why I wanted a smaller home instance. Didn’t want or need tankies telling me I’m not leftist enough and didn’t want or need 4chan wannabes trolling me for the lulz. This whole thing is going to have growing pains. If beehive or lemmyworld get too annoying, I can surf local and chill.
Absolutely, I’m here to chat with people who don’t suck; not have to pass purity tests from the left.
The stuff about Reddit dying and Lemmy not working is hopefully just popping off because it’s at the front of our minds. Most of us are brand new here, most of us came from Reddit, and every new bit of drama (landed gentry, etc.) has a weird personal element associated. Fingers crossed that the dust settles.
And I don’t really even understand what people mean when they say Lemmy “won’t work.” What is that even supposed to mean? I’m typing to you lot right now. I’ve been making [kinda] friends since I arrived. I’m learning a new way to engage with online communities. Feels like it’s working to me.
I’m sure what they really mean is that Lemmy won’t replace Reddit. So? The intense desire to brute force Lemmy, Kbin, Tildes, Squabbles, etc. into Reddit #2 makes me feel tired.
The internet is big, and it can have more than one website on it. What is the urgency to replicate Reddit here or anywhere else? Folks are talking about this whole thing like it’s some competition that somebody needs to win, which I cannot relate to at all.
Yeah, I hear you! I joined because I left reddit. This is different. That’s OK! Yes people may miss what they had. They may enjoy what they can create here too.
Thinking back… talking to friends on AOL IM, blogging on Diaryland, discussing music on last.fm (still do this one!), shitposting on forums, and reading news on BoingBoing all at the same time was never really a thing that needed to be consolidated into one place and I feel like we lost something by trying to do that.
There is a size that becomes a tipping point making participation feel pointless, and that’s when you start looking like what reddit became. IMO I prefer the small instances for participation, and the larger ones just for lurking.