It was one of the most bizarre sex crimes in recent Tulsa history. Now it’s over, and both adults involved are headed to prison.

The 12-year-old girl showed up a Hillcrest Hospital in midtown Tulsa in July 2021 in labor.

The father-to-be apparently expected to walk out with the girl and their new bundle of joy.

“They walked in just like any other couple would, excited to deliver their newborn child,” Tulsa Police Officer Danny Bean told FOX23 News in 2021.

When the child, well below the age of consent, showed up to give birth, doctors immediately called Tulsa Police to report what was happening.

152 points

No one would have been in trouble if they were married. In Oklahoma, there are no age restrictions for marriage. An adult can marry a toddler if they want. Child marriage is a long-standing conservative tradition, unfortunately.

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No one would have been in trouble if they were married

Would being married actually nullify age of consent laws though?

Genuinely asking.

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Yes they do and to a cheryy on top. It does not grant the child the right to sign othet contracts. So they have to get permission to hire a divorce lawyer. American law, American order at it’s finest

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Even with the lawyer they need permission for the divorce. Running away is often their only choice to avoid being constantly raped by an old man. In the USA. In 2023. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/united-states-child-marriage-problem-study-findings-april-2021/

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Wtf I did not know it went to new levels of horribleness

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Just an FYI, minors CAN enter into contracts. It is true infancy imparts a lack of capacity. However, minors can still enter contracts. They are voidable at the election of the minor party until a reasonable time after reaching the age of maturity unless the contract is for necessities, then it is not voidable.

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Most consent laws used to be written so that marriage would be an exception. Whether Oklahomas have or not is a toss up, but given that they didn’t add a lower limit on marriage age, I’d guess they haven’t updated many of those laws in a while.

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24 points

Yes. If they were married, the sex would be legal.

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38 points

That’s seriously fucked up. Even for the US.

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I disagree with the no age restrictions statement. That makes it sound like there are no restrictions. According to , in Oklahoma, you have to be 18 to get married, 16 with a parent’s permission, and any age under 16 requires a court order.

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I can’t imagine a use for court ordered marriage that would result in anything good.

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9 points

Q:How did ma ma and pa pa meet?

A:our relationship was Court Ordered.

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One of my wife’s friends needed parental consent because she got married at 17 (to a guy a few years older). The whole thing worked out OKish - they’ve been together nearly 20 years, had a couple of kids, but I think they both recognise they got together too young, and wouldn’t otherwise be together today - though they have no plans to separate.

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I can. By making it technically possible, you can divert attention.

One example would be for crazy edge situations. Like letting children with terminal illnesses fulfill their last wishes, or letting hormone ridden teens make their case to a judge, keeping them from more extreme actions.

But more practically, I think this is a great idea… 99.9% of anyone asking for this either needs court ordered mental evaluation and/or a referral to CPS to do a deep dig into the situation. By making it technically possible, that means anyone seriously pursuing this has to explain themselves to a judge.

Unfortunately our judicial system has a lot more to do with money than justice (so most people who would actually go through with this probably have the money to protect themselves from consequences), but this law would be a sensible part of a more perfect system… Granted this should almost never be granted by the court (terminally ill child is the only situation that makes sense to me), but there’s value in it

My opinion would change greatly if this is a real path to child marriage rather than a mostly theoretical possibility

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any age under 16 requires a court order.

i wonder under what circumstances this happens.

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mostly when the girl is raped by her future husband and the family did want to live with the shame/sin of sex before marriage. So they just marry off the girl and pretend the sex happened after the wedding

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6 points

Don’t give them any ideas…

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4 points

I felt like this couldn’t possibly be true. I was wrong.

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You must not know many American conservatives. Child marriage is a big thing for them.

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An adult can marry a toddler if they want.

No way that’s true. How is this the top comment?

Even if hyperbole, come on. Even famously backwards Oklahoma isn’t that bad. Jesus.

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133 points

How do you have an entire fucking family show up for a baby shower and not one god damn person says a thing? How do these people show up at a hospital with a pregnant 12 year old thinking this was going to have a happy ending?

That’s some George Costanza shit right there. “Was I not supposed to impregnate 12 year olds? Because I had no idea. I mean if someone had told me that was frowned on around here, I never would’ve done it.”

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The rapist was at the hospital for delivery and proudly told everyone he was the dad, even the police that the hospital called…

Cops said even after he was in the cop car he didn’t understand why he was being arrested.

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32 points

It’s god’s plan!

Source: uncle is a Christian fundie

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29 points

REPUBLICANS is how

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4 points

generational dysfunction. this type of thing is normal for them. i bet this kind of thing has happened in their family before.

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2 points

Please do not compare funny man George to this piece of human garbage.

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126 points

After reading the title, I did not expect this to get even more fucked up

Miranda-Jara was initially in a relationship with the girl’s mother but when things soured between the two, mom allowed Miranda-Jara to move on to her then-12-year-old daughter. Eventually, they would begin living together as a couple

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That is fuckin’ WILD. Holy shit.

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RAPE! She helped him RAPE!

GET THE FUCKING HEADLINES CORRECT.

A 12 year old did not “get pregnant by grown man.” She was FUCKING RAPED!

Holy shit, it implies the issue here was the getting pregnant. There’s a little something that occurred before that and it was called RAPE!

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I would also point out the human trafficking by pimping out your own child. Really need some sort of extra charge for that one, something about abusing a position of power.

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There actually is in a lot of states. There is a specific charge for, “sexual abuse on a child from a position of trust”, that is specifically used for parental guardians. The charge is treated as a higher class than just sexual abuse on a child by itself, and I think the minimum is around 10 years for it. It should probably be higher considering people go to prison longer for drug charges, but at least its something.

I learned this from watching too many true crime documentaries.

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Yes, that was what I was eluding too as well. Most nations have some form of tack on sentence for abuse of a trusted position.

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I’m not sure whether the rape or the non-consentual pregnancy and forced birth is worse…

Then there’s the fate of the child born to the kind of monster that would pay to do this…

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I read this article about an underage marriage, and while it explains how they get to that point in a more specific way, these are still men who rape children incapable of consent. No matter how you slice it, it’s rape.

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The last sentence is a punch in the gut.

“The girl’s father was in prison for a separate sex crime and has no involvement in his daughter’s life, Tulsa Police told FOX23 News at the time of the incident.”

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Yeah that girl is an orphan AND a mother. Fuck.

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