Yesterday, I was reading a thread that asked what’s the point of buying a new phone as often as as people do. In the comments there were a variety of answers, but what interested me is that there were a wide variety of answers for how long each person liked to go before upgrading. So I’ve attempted to come up with justifications for a bunch of different intervals. Let me know what you think.

Every….

Year: You spend multiple hours a day on this device, it’s worth having the most up to date. You can sell your old phone for a pretty good price so it’s not as expensive as it seems

2 years: If you like getting your service from one of the major providers then getting a new phone with a new contract can be a cost effective way of getting new tech often.

3 years: With this interval there’s often a noticeable hardware upgrade when you get your new phone and a 3 year old phone still has some resale value.

4 years: Samsung and Google both guarantee 4 years of support, so this is a natural interval for these phones.

For the rest of these, I’m going to focus on iPhones because I use an iPhone and it’s what I’m familiar with. I suspect that a lot of this also applies to android phones. Perhaps push all of these milestones 1 year forward since apple guarantees 5 years of support instead of 4 like Samsung or Google.

5 years: For iPhones this is the interval you’d want if you always want to have the newest iOS. Most phones get compatibility with 6ish iOS’s including the one that comes installed. For example the iPhone X (2017) -> iPhone 14 (2022) since it’s not going to get iOS 17

6 years: For iPhone X again, this is basically the same as 5 years, but you stretch it another year because it’s not a big deal to go without iOS 17 between it’s release and when you buy an iPhone 15 a little while later.

7 years: Let’s continue with the iPhone X example. iOS 15 has continued to get security updates this year so it’s likely that iOS 16 will receive them next year. It’s security, not software features, that are truly important and it’s the last year that apple guarantees having parts, so 2024 is the best year to trade in an iPhone X on from an economy/function trade off point of view

8, 9 and 10 years: you dislike change, you are incredibly broke or you only have a smartphone in the first place because it’s basically necessary to function in modern society. Plus you get to be smug about being green. Most major apps to support back to iOS 12, which makes 2023 a good year to upgrade from your iphone 5s before all your apps start to break, and your aunt starts to wonder why she can’t contact you on whatsapp.

10 years I’m not sure what you’re doing, but you do you, keep up the good work 🫡

One final note, if your phone is too old to have a resell value worth the hassle, still go through the effort of finding an electronics recycling drop off. The plastics won’t be recycled but the metals, especially the rare earth metals will be!

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Oh, for reference, I like a 5 year upgrade cycle. Currently I have an iphone XR, and I’m planning to get an iphone 15 this winter.

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Honestly for me, if my phone fits my needs, I see no point to upgrading. I tend to steer towards iPhones for their long support and the “just works” aspect. I had an iPhone 8 until this year and only just upgraded to an 11 after breaking it. But each to their own, a phone is just a tool for me.

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Oh nice. I wanted to talk about used phones, but I’ve only ever bought new so I struggled.

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I just wait for family or friends who are on contracts to upgrade. They’re usually pretty happy to let them go for a reasonable price. My partner just brought a 12 (I think) from her brother who upgrades every other year.

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A decade ago, one phone generation was a significant step up in performance.

Today that increase is marginal at best.

Over that time I think many people’s renewal cycle got longer as the utility of upgrading dropped.

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the only thing practically capping the lengthening of the cycle is planned obsolescence. If your phone starts acting weird and losing usability 2 years in, and you cant fix it without shelling out the equivalent of a new phone (I’m looking at you apple), there’s no real way around a new phone. be it old model or flagship, you’re still forced to buy because no phone is understandably not an option for most people.

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This, the differences aren’t that great. Sure, a bit faster processor or the camera is “even better” but that’s not something I notice. I don’t game on my phone and photos are good enough. The form factor doens’t change a lot and new features or inventions don’t appeal to me (for a long while after the iphone/touchscreen there was nothing, now we have fold phones. That could be nice). So why upgrade when it doesn’t feel like an upgrade.

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Yep that’s 100% true for me. I used to get itchy to upgrade every ~3 years or so. Now my phone is 4 years old and an upgrade isn’t even present in my mind unless I come across a thread like this. And if I do…I’m just like “wah I don’t wanna spend money.”

The only thing I’m looking forward to is a later-generation folding phone, once they’re more reliable. So maybe another 2 years.

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My upgrade cycle is now: “If I smash this one, or I can no longer source replacement batteries. Then I’ll get a new handset”

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For me - whenever the battery degrades to a level where it doesn’t hold a charge a whole workday - or - the device goes end-of-life. Normally battery dies before the support. This tends to be about 4-ish year cycle for me (My last upgrade was iPhone XR -> iPhone 14).

Once EU forces Apple to replaceable batteries I’ll stretch this to “as long as it’s supported with security updates”.

I want maximally secure phone (since all important things like identity, access to accounts etc are stored on it) that has reasonable battery time.
That’s it. Phones have been “feature complete” for a long, long time, I’m not looking for new features and I try to minimize my app usage to bare bone necessities.

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I’ve heard a few people say this and honestly I’m still confused. I got my iPhone XR’s battery replaced by apple themselves last year. I think it cost 80USD, which is too much, and EU law will be a welcome change. Hοwever, it’s still saves money even if it delays your new phone purchase by only one year.

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Pure convenience for me. We only have one Apple authorized repair shop in the city and in order to replace battery, I need to turn in my phone and wait - sometimes that’s quick, but often there’s a 2-3 day queue for repairs … and arranging for backup phones etc is just too much of an hassle. My company pays for my phones, so it’s not a big deal for me personally. If this was coming from my pocket, I’d probably do as you say.

But yeah, being able to swap batteries easily is very welcome.

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Plus you get to be smug about being green

better than to be smug about being “anti-green” 🤮

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Whenever I meet someone who brags about intentionally doing something bad for the environment anti-green, I look at them with disgust. I had a co-worker tell me that she got around the emissions tests for her pickup by buying one of those devices online, and she had the audacity to look at me like she expected me to be impressed.

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