I was browsing the internet and I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WO0zSStdj8

Apparently, it’s a squad of Russian Soldiers refusing to go back to the front line. The fat guy says they were NOT getting food or water (yeah I heard it), I am pretty sure he is right. So, what are the types of conditions you have to face to get water and food at soldiers? I mean, I can understand them not getting ammo and man power to get rid of the dead. Probably manufacturing problems and it’s dangerous respectively. But yeah, what else? Why would they not get food and water?

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Wars are won (and lost) as a result of supply chain logistics.

One of the most important elements of the war machine is a well-fed and well-equipped soldier. As such, most armies have dedicated logistics divisions to ensure supplies, weapons, and machinery get to where they are needed on time.

Consequently, supply chain interdiction or disruption is a powerful weapon of war. To interfere with your enemy’s logistical operations is to reduce the overall effectiveness of their combatants and thus their strategy.

Modern-day Russia was not prepared for this war to last as long as it has, their commanding officers have little regard for their soldiers, and they’ve historically had poor logistics to begin with.

This makes it easy to disrupt their supply chains, if they were even set up in the first place. Add this to tribalist infighting and a general lack of cohesion and you end up with people going hungry.

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Wars are won (and lost) as a result of supply chain logistics

See also: Campaign for North Africa

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No don’t do that, I don’t have 11 months to play.

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It is really hard. Incredibly hard.

Part of the reason why the USA has such a dominant military is because it has built incredibly long and sturdy supply chains that can move soldiers and materiel around the world quickly to soldiers.

First, you need to get this to the front, which usually requires a supply chain, reserves, and a manufacturing base to replenish reserves. Russia’s economy is ok, but this is the first war in a generation and the Russian economy is showing obvious cracks in being able to supply soldiers. You also have Ukraine getting its supplies from the best logistics force in the world and its economic allies.

Second, you need to actually deploy the resources to the front. That usually requires competent military logistics being able to move these supplies. If your logistics people are corrupt or incompetent, that may not happen to the volumes needed.

So, yeah, there appears to be logistics problems with the Russian military.

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Seconding this gentlepreferredgenders answer. Logistics is normally easy: don’t send soldiers past your logistical reach. The extent of this reach is what determines an armys capacity for offensive maneuvers.

One side of US military is its capacity to project power all around the world, and support that through its logistics apparatus. Few countries can project power in the same way (France and UK, mainly. And to an extent Indonesia).

Russia has its military, including the logistics portion, based around rail transport (For example, the IS10 tank was a good tank for its time, but couldn’t be transported very easily like the lighter tanks could, which is one of the factors that lead to USSR shifting her strategy away from heavy tanks). Having a logistics network based on rail makes sense from a defensive perspective, but run into problems when on the offensive - now you have to secure rail infrastructure to expand the logistical network as you go, as well as keep it maintained and not sabotaged. this is resource intensive when dealing with insurgencies.

And even if you get decent control of a decent rail network, then the issue becomes delivering that last mile - in theory easy, but you need logistics hubs that can offload trains and load stuff onto trucks. Even after russia got (some of their) shit together, this was a bottleneck that was struck by himars several times, and videos have shown that even the unexploded logistics hubs are highly inefficient, because for reasons I cannot understand, a lot of the goods aren’t stacked on standardized pallets that are easily moved by forklift. Instead you see things such as offloading a truckfull of landmines (probably without their detonators in) the same way you would a pile of gravel; tip the flatbed, and let everything slide off onto the ground, ready to be moved by hand.

Source: i used to be in army logistics. And I like trains.

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You might want to read about tooth to tail ratio on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooth-to-tail_ratio

In a sense, war is mostly logistics. It doesn’t matter how strong your unit is, how clever you tactics are, or brilliant your strategy is. None of those things matter if the unit is not where they need to be, with the supplies to be effective.

Most countries have limited ability to project military force outside their country because the logistics become so hard to support. Russian military relies heavily on rail transport, which doesn’t extend into Ukraine anymore, and trucks what it can’t rail…but the supply depots need to be hundreds of km behind the line because of long range precision missile strikes. With long supply chains supported to heavily stretched trucking, guys at the front won’t get everything they want.

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(Not a military)

Cutting the supply lines is one of the most classic military strategy. In most armies there is way more soldiers involved in logistic and support than soldier actually fighting. If you want to get rid of the soldier fighting on the front-line you can send other soldier fighting against them, but they are trained and ready to fight or you can just cut the supply lines by destroying bridge and bombing supply truck/trains. During Napoleon’s Russian campaign (people will start to believe I am obsessed with Napoleon) russia did burn the crop before withdrawing, and it’s how once they reached Moscow the soldier had no food left and Napoleon’s great army died from starvation while retreating under Russian winter

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people will start to believe I am obsessed with Napoleon

I know you are😂 You probably think about him daily and dream about him :')

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I know you are😂 You probably think about him daily and dream about him :')

Well, considering my contribution for the weekly challenge of c/imageai@sh.itjust.works I start to wonder whether it’s my new obsession :) https://sh.itjust.works/comment/3804601

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Perhaps you could tell us something about Napoleon that really turns you on.

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oh, and supply logistics were the reason the Romans built Roman roads, the reason the Germans built the Audubon, and the reason the United States built the interstates. it’s a big deal

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Autobahn?

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yeah my voice to text doesn’t care

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If only there was an edit button to fix mistakes after the fact, and 6 seconds of diligence to make it happen.

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Audubon sounds kinda french ngl

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Bon audu!

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