Hexbear and .ml covering their ears and yelling “lalalalala”
Nah, Hexbear is cheering the genocide on. They’re mask-off at this point.
Look at lemmy.ml and they’re on the verge of calling zelensky himself a nazi.
Not really on the verge, many of them have been justifying the invasion because of neozasim in Ukraine, which is indeed a problem, but Russian born Putinesque neofascism is probably not the cure for it.
If your enemy is a Jew and you hate Jews just call them self hating! Easy!
I’m pretty sure they would say that ukraine shouldn’t exsist anyway because the US propaganda is taking over them or whatever.
“Euromaidan was a coup” they seriously claim, and add a quote from Mersheimer.
Did they not force the president at the time to resign? It’d be like Jan 6th forcing Biden to not take office. I’m genuinely interested to know what the difference is. It can be considered just, but it doesn’t seem inaccurate to call it a coup. Please educate me.
I don’t understand, are the people on these servers kremlin bots or are they really that stupid?
I think they are just trolls. Hexbear has a community called “The Dunk Tank” where they proudly announce when they successfully “dunked” on someone, also known as arguing in bad faith with prejudicial hostility and no will to listen until the other side gives up and leaves. They mark that as a win in their book and applaud to it.
Ohmygod one person said something about me. Quick defed from the entire instance!!
Nah it’s been nearly constantly and consistently bad quality posts and toxicity from that instance.
I found this offensive. Not all people on my instance think what you think.
lemm.ee have “no bigotry” rule, but why offend other instances is okay?
If you think the reputation doesn’t apply to you, personally, then it’s trivial to move to a different Lemmy server. It’s not some immutable characteristic of your being.
I registered on this server 2 years ago and I should move to another server because some people think that this server is for people who support Russia? It’s bullshit. It was a leftist server some time ago, but now it’s a general purpose server. Also leftists != support Russia.
Anyway, we shouldn’t go in comments and say that people from X are jerks.
Appeasement will only strengthen Russia.
Russia has all the power - they can end the war as soon as they pull their shitbirds out of Ukraine & Crimea.
And hell, get the fuck out of Georgia while we’re discussing. Go home, sign up for a 12 step program and figure out your fucking lives while awaiting the warcrimes charges.
Whatll we do with it though? Dont think the Poles want it nor the Germans, ya know what fuck it give it to San Marino itll be funny.
I am glad to announce you guys that number of tankies here is below 4% according to up/downvotes
It’s low enough to know them by their usernames and shame them every time they post something
As long as they’re genuine and civil about their opinions, I encourage a space for that discussion. If it’s disingenuous trolling or crude propaganda then it becomes a problem.
The general public framing of the war and Russian “denazification” messaging has basically broke criticism of the situation in the mainstream. It’s even to the point where you can support Ukrainian people and clearly identify Russia as the aggressor, but if you rationalize how this war didn’t come out of nowhere people’s alarm bells go up, and immediately you are scrutinized whether you’re a Russian troll or not. (There is no measure of sincerity online.)
The shocking thing for me is how quickly people revel in violence the second there’s a moral justification for it. Like you see closeups of injured Russians getting grenades dropped on them and see their bodies exploding, and it’s almost treated as a moral duty to view this as entertainment, consuming it on the same social media feeds you would memes and friend’s family photos.
I am, sadly, guilty of the last part, but to my defence I followed the beginning of this war almost religiously and the brutality the russian soldiers was beyond horrific.
They had absolutely zero regard for human life in any form or way.
I’ve also heard countless recordings of phone calls between soldiers and families back in Russia and while not all are equally bad, many were sould wrenching to listen to.
I can’t excuse cheering for the loss of life, even when brainwashed, but I did and felt comfort knowing that there was one invader leas to wreck havock upon the Ukranian population.
I would reckon many were in the same boat as myself.
If it’s disingenuous trolling or crude propaganda then it becomes a problem.
That’s what tankies do almost by definition. You’re talking about the rare breed of communists who aren’t tankies.
At this point, there is very little room for a discussion that hasn’t already been settled though. Anyone who doesn’t see Ukraine as the victim and Russia as the complete aggressor is already a fool (who if they haven’t understood by now, will they ever?) or a troll.
I don’t think the issue for criticism is whether they’re a victim of Russia’s aggression, they were clearly invaded. The issue is why they, as a victim in this context, benefit from the full weight of western support, whereas other victims are basically ignored, or even explained away as something expected and “unfortunate.” If you sincerely support Ukrainian people you have to realize they are not being supported by the west simply because they are good deserving people, else we’d have sent weapons to many other groups in even more dire situations, the names of which aren’t even in our public conscious. If you truly support victimized people you have to go far beyond the messaging from western governments, and it will extend far beyond borders and national/religious identities. Just look at the way Kurds were symbolized in the war against ISIS, and what eventually happened there. People had the Kurdish flag on their social media profiles, they were the moderate independent democratic state in the midst of extremists, then they were no longer a useful political tool in this context.
The reason propaganda has been so successful in this war, is that any criticism of the western powers is taken as criticism of people in Ukraine and akin to support of Russia. Even though, as we we’ve seen time and time again, these institutions change their tune and we can expect western Ukrainian regions to at some point becomes yesterday’s news, just like Crimea was in 2014.
As Churchill said, Nations that go down fighting rise again, but those who surrendered timely were finished. Slava Ukraini
He had nothing to do with that. The famine was largely caused by natural disasters, crop disease, Japanese invasion of Burma, and incompetent local beurocrats.
I would also imagine that he was a little busy with the impending fall of Europe in 1943 given the Americans did not join the war until 1944. I also looked at additional accounts and it appears the local government didn’t even declare a state of emergency, so how would he have known?
given the Americans did not join the war until 1944
What? Do you think D-day was the first day of war for Americans? It wasn’t.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_campaigns_during_World_War_II
They went down fighting. They fought badly, but so did everyone against Germany until they started taking things seriously.
