Anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is expected to announce Monday that he will drop his Democratic bid for president and run as an independent or third-party candidate, adding a new wrinkle to a 2024 race currently heading toward a rematch between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

Kennedy’s campaign has teased the announcement in the days leading up to a Monday afternoon speech in Philadelphia. In a recent video, Kennedy said there is corruption “in the leadership of both political parties” and said he wants to “rewrite the assumptions and change the habits of American politics.”

The video came shortly after Mediaite reported he planned to launch an independent bid.

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You’d think that if you’re gonna position yourself as a third party alternative, you’d drop the wild antivaxx shit since the crazy people already are going to vote republican.

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You would think, but it’s ok as he’ll divide the ant-science vote.

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The danger is if he pulls some D votes because he’s a Kennedy. He’s been working pretty closely together with roger stone and steve bannon if that tells you anything about the messaging he’s been putting out.

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It’d be interesting to see who is paying him to run.

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Yeah. My eyes got WIDE open about the “function” of third-party candidates in the US after I saw in hindsight (because isn’t hindsight always clearer?) Jill Stein’s role in a prior election. They’re basically there to shave off just enough votes from one of the major parties to tilt things one way or another. Easy for 3rd parties–no matter of they’re crazies OR if they actually have legit policy stances that really should be considered, such as climate issues–to be turned into agents of chaos. People working the USA’s political system from the outside work BOTH sides–the right and the left, pretending to be either one to sow discord as it suits their goals. The more division the better, for them.

I really want various ballot initiatives to succeed in changing how voting is done in the US, so you can safely vote for the candidate you actually want without handing the election to the worst candidate. Voting would be much invigorated if you could vote for someone with pride and enthusiasm instead of, “At least they’re not XYZ” which is what has to happen now working within the rules our system has for us.

Here and there, a few states have implemented better systems with various flavors of ranked choice and such for their state elections, so they’re not stuck in a two-party horror show for local elections at least, but there’s a lot of hard work that has to be done before that gains enough momentum across many states and towns and smaller localities in the US that it might be feasible to change the way voting is done on a federal level.

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I can certainly get that it feels like most third parties are there to siphon votes from major political parties and sow discord.

I really want various ballot initiatives to succeed in changing how voting is done in the US, so you can safely vote for the candidate you actually want without handing the election to the worst candidate.

Funnily enough their is a third party for that. One of the Forward’s main policy is Ranked Choice Voting.

They plan to start focusing on local and state elections as those positions make the election laws.

there’s a lot of hard work that has to be done before that gains enough momentum across many states and towns and smaller localities in the US that it might be feasible to change the way voting is done on a federal level.

Indeed, there is lots of work to be done. You can volunteer with your state’s local group if you think it is important. They have groups organized in 43/50 states.

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Yeah if third party candidates were actually serious they would work to get ranked choice voting passed then run

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The only third party I give any credence to is the Working Families Party. They’ll run in local races while supporting candidates from other parties when they know they can’t win.

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He probably pulls more votes from older voters based on the name recognition of his father, and unfortunately with how closely associated his father was with the Democratic party I’d imagine that pulls votes from Biden. Could be wrong though, maybe he’ll corner the market on crazy street.

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Not sure if the article is paywalled, but it’s not really interesting who is paying him. What would be interesting is if normal people were supporting him, but only the kooks are looking for RFK Jr to make any waves.

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The reason I disagree is that he claims to be a dem but seems to be courting some of the dumber aspects of “centrists.” He doesn’t have shot. He knows that.

So, why is he running? I believe the answer will be found if we follow the money.

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Yet another Useful Idiot for #Ruzzia

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Covid-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. Covid-19 attacks certain races disproportionately. Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.

-RFK Jr.

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The scientific evidence and statistics say half the opposite. Ashkenazi Jews actually had poorer outcomes overall as compared to other ethnic groups. It’s just that they were more likely to follow masking and social distancing rules and got their vaccinations, so had less infections overall. But if they did contract Covid, it was way worse for them.

Same with the black population, (though there were issues of not getting vaccines in those communities due to past genocidal testing by the US government on said populations) so I guess he’s half right there.

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Well of course. The Jewish space laser blasts anti-covid beams over synagogues and the Chinese invented the virus as well as the REAL™ cure, and everyone else has CCP activation codes inside the vaccine and will activate during the FEMA broadcast test on Oct 4th rescheduled since too many people knew about it and turned off their phones.

He also forgot the lizard people who cured themselves with 5G waves.

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The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews

This is some medieval, “How come the Jews are surviving the plague better?!”, boolshit.

Perhaps because they have a history of practicing good hygiene?

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“Who survived Covid most?”

“The ethno-religious group required to practice medically sound infectious disease practices and an ethnic group predisposed to wearing masks while sick. Both are disproportionately medical professionals.”

“Conspiracy!!!”

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Yeah! You’re so smart! How did they become “disproportionately medical professionals” ?!

ethno-religious group required to practice medically sound infectious disease practices

Not gonna hear it. Conspiracy. I stand pat.

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He’s not wrong that there’s corruption in both parties leadership. Everything else on the other hand, completely insane about

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He’s literally a chaos agent of Steve Bannon. He’s not right about anything, and legitimizing him as a real candidate makes this worse.

https://www.salon.com/2023/04/06/steve-bannon-spent-months-recruiting-anti-vaxxer-rfk-jr-to-run-against-biden-as-chaos-agent/

"Former chief Trump strategist Steve Bannon spent “months” encouraging anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run against President Joe Biden in the 2024 election, according to a report from CBS News.

People familiar with the matter told the outlet that Bannon hoped Kennedy could serve as a “useful chaos agent” in the election while also spreading “anti-vaccine sentiment around the country,” according to CBS News’ Robert Costa."

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He’s wrong if he’s going to pretend that he’s not part of that same corruption.

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It really makes you wonder where all the anti-corruptiom reformers are that aren’t part of the problem.

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The one Kennedy nobody wanted.

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