Hamas’s Qassam Brigades has threatened to execute Israeli captives if Israel continues to bombard and kill civilians in Gaza.

“Any targeting of innocent civilians without warning will be met regretfully by executing one of the captives in our custody, and we will be forced to broadcast this execution,” said Abu Obeida, a spokesman for Hamas’ Qassam Brigades.

“We regret this decision but we hold the Zionist enemy and their leadership the responsibility for this,” he said.

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It’s great both sides of this conflict have so much respect for protecting the lives of civilians. Ugh. I wish the leaders of Hamas and Bibi’s reactionary government were the ones that would actually suffer the consequences of this war.

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This conflict benefits the most: Russia and China (by having US distracted) and Bibi (by having previously divided Israelis united behind him)

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Iran too. I’m sure they weren’t too happy with the impending Israeli-Saudi rapprochement. This at a minimum will significantly complicate that.

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Hamas has already said it was directly backed by Iran.

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Yes, I think Israel can handle Hamas on their own, but Hezbollah is looking if there is an opportunity for them. I think that’s why US Navy is there to discourage them.

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This is why I want a blank check for Ukraine.

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Wouldn’t this whole thing just be a huge problem for him tho? After Israel is done, I would think that the government would start getting really uncomfortable questions from the people. Like wtf was the military and the intelligence doing.

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A segment of the populace will definitely be feeling that, but remember what happened in the US after 9/11? There weren’t a lot of calls to figure out how intelligence failed so spectacularly because the sabre-rattling government came out in full force, and the country (almost) united against Islamic terrorism. Those who aren’t overtly political or who don’t follow politics too closely will only see that Bibi has reacted with as much force as possible, which plays into his strongman vibe and may even win his party an election in their own right, without having to coalesce with the other parties. After the clusterfuck of elections they’ve been through recently, this could be what seals another decade of Likud rule.

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So while the US is “distracted”, Russia and China do what? Steal the pie from the windowsill?

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We stop backing Ukraine, we start backing Israel. Ukraine loses billions in funding, which helps Russia. The better off Russia is the larger ally China has.

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That’s rich.

You just killed civilians, what evidence is there to conclude you wouldn’t kill those ppl anyway.

Both sides of this conflict have done so much horrific shit, you can’t trust any of them.

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It’s almost like most Arab countries don’t give a shit about Palastine

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They give a shit about not being attacked by a country that’s got the nuclear bomb and the backing of most of the western world.

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From what I can gather, there are no good guys between Israel and Palestine because they were set up to fight each other. The UK saw that the Jewish people were desperate following the Holocaust and told them that they can have land that was occupied by other groups with a strong religious identity. The Palestinians were like “WTF? We live here and are Muslim.” Now, the two groups are fighting each other for survival while being supported and encouraged by external powers for their own political gain. This whole thing is fucked up since the victims are both Israel and Palestine.

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Excellent comment. Thank you.

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I tried to figure out who was really to blame for all this yesterday, and I stopped at the Russian revolution without an answer.

Nationalism and the desire for a Jewish state came from the pogroms of Jews in Russia – paraphrased, a Jewish scholar believed they would only have freedom and be respected if they had their own country.

Britain decades later wanted influence in an area that they had none in, and they wanted to grow a Jewish population to create that influence. Zionists happily accepted.

And from then on we’ve had the Arab/Palestine/Israeli enmity.

Everyone has been a victim. Everyone has been an aggressor. I suspect that if I were to follow the source of the Russian pogroms, I’d ultimately end up with the Romans in Israel.

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The seeds of the conflict stretch back further. Essentially, the UK promised both Arabs and Jews a state in Palestine in exchange for fighting the Ottoman Empire in World War I.

As part of the aftermath of that conflict, Great Britain was assigned a League of Nations mandate to administer Palestine starting in 1923. It wasn’t exactly always peaceful and essentially the UK decided to nope out after WW2. Basically as soon as it was announced they were leaving there was a Civil War which spiraled into the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 literally the day the mandate ended and Israel declared independence. But yes the whole thing is fucked.

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Neither Egypt nor Jordan want to deal with the kind of extremism rife within places like Gaza, and I can’t blame them

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…will be met regretfully by executing one of the captives…

We regret this decision but…

Idk if the translation is just wrong, but they’re using the word “regret” weirdly here. Almost seems like a slip of the tongue, betraying their actual regret to have done something so stupid and easily condemnable to such a degree that the international community has a very easy time holding back and not applying much leverage at all in trying to hold Israel back from absolutely obliterating them.

But frankly, I think they’re too zealous to actually regret it at all. They’ll probably live out the rest of their shortened lives in ignorant blissful fervor.

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I’m not sure why people wonder, “What is Hamas thinking?!”

They aren’t.

They are a far right fundamentalist extremist terrorist organisation. They are fucking delusional.

Palestinian people deserve so much better than Hamas, and they have to suffer now. That’s just terrible.

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They voted Hamas, Support Hamas and sustain it. It was Palestinian civilians who spat onto naked raped bodies of women. Palestinians got what they chose and deserve it. They are no poor people but supporters of s criminal system.

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Live 30-40 years in a place where an occupying nation walls your cities, treats you as prisoners, denies and steals resources, and we’ll see which kind of hate you will harbour against your aggressors. You will just see red. I’m not condoning what they are doing but I get why they do, they have been suffering for so long that they want the aggressors to feel the same, and at this point, for them, anyone in Israel is the aggressor. A cornered rabid dog bites anyone.

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1937, 1947, 2000, 2001, 2008. These are the years on which the Arab side of Palestine was offered the choice of gaining statehood, but they said no.

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Are you talking about elections held over 10 years ago? Hamas is an authoritarian militia, nobody would trust them to hold honest elections.

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