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The answer is a general strike, but I have no fucking idea how we’d pull that off in the USA without the majority becoming homeless.

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Cops can’t stop general strikes

Crackdowns only turn supporterts to active rebels, and sympathizers to supporters.

State Violence only strengthens the movement.

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Historically it has been sustained, smaller, local action that has produced results far more frequently than attempted general strikes. Everybody wants to do this the quick way and they aren’t willing to roll up their sleeves and put in the time to do it locally. They think that everybody’s just going to nod and stop working and it’s all going to be glorious, but that’s just not how it goes down. You can count the number of truly successful general strikes that were clear victories on one hand.

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Consumption strike. Just stop buying nonessentials. Rent strike, mortgage strike. Protests are worthless if you’re still buying crap from amazon and eating at chain restaurants.

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I guess I’ve been on an involuntary consumption strike for the last 10 years or so then lol

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Like the Roman plebs used to do. Just every pleb go on vacation to the country at the same time, leaving the rich to fend for themselves.

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Mutual aid is probably the best we could do in the short term

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You strike and just keep striking, they cant take you.out of your home if you have a gun…

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I think what you’ll actually find is that they definitely can.

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They can take you out– that’s for sure.

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Yeah, I’ve heard if you have a gun in your house the police will just give up and move on to the next.

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Happened at uvalde

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Peaceful protest is legal because it accomplishes nothing.

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Peaceful protest was the compromise. It’s time the owning class is reminded of this.

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Peaceful protest is legal

And they’re trying to change that too, just in case
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-passing-new-public-order-laws-marks-dark-new-era-peaceful-protest

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It can if you do it right and have a purpose. Martin Luther King Jr. Did peaceful protests and changed America for the better.

The problem is there is very little to protest. If you are protesting current issues chances are your political party is already trying to accomplish those things. They are then fighting the opposite party for control.

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This is a very uninformed understanding of history and politics.

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“riots are the language of the unheard” -MLK peaceful protests are the alternative you give, the other option is violence. MLK new this. Despite how incredibly watered down and whitewashed his message and words have become when they teach about him in school.

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I guess that depends on who ‘we’ means? The September climate protests were pretty big globally, with 50 countries participating.

As someone who has been to protests in the past for various topics, my experience is that the media isn’t interested in reporting on them unless they get dramatic eye-catching footage. Which unfortunately usually means just the ones that have a physical fight break out make the front page anywhere.

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Then I have to disagree. They’ve been most effective on smaller jurisdiction governments, but there have been a good amount of significant protests the past few years. The Carnegie endowment tracker has a pretty good list.

Physical protests have limitations though like transport to a central point. I suspect the support is greater than attendees.

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Also because even if you are protesting for someone’s right, that same person will hate you if you block the road or inconvenience them in any way.

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Fuck every single person (in the ass) who has ever blockaded a public way without permit to do so.

aw poor baby got his feelings hurt.

IT’S FUCKING NOTHING COMPARED TO THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM.

Get a sense of actual perspective you over-entitled twat.

The ecosystem is on the red line. Planet’s burning and you don’t even want to slow your shitmobile down, surprised you’re not one of the ‘run the protesters over’ fuckwits.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE BIOSPHERE YOU FUCKING BELLEND. I really hope your children hate you, they should, fucks like you so concerned about your own pitiful pointless lives getting hemorrhoids over being late to an appointment because someone’s protesting THE RAPIDLY ONCOMING DEATH OF OUR SPECIES DUE TO SELFISH PRICKS SPEWING CO2 FOR PROFIT.

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This. Your protest should inconvenience the bad actors, not your potential allies.

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What is there to protest?

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Climate Action, housing crisis, massive debts, pollution, minimum wage increases, racism, police brutality, rich people not getting punished, politicians not keeping their word, corruption, …

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All of those are meaningless to me. I guess it makes sense that I’m not taking to the streets

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Protesting does not do anything because politians are not accountable to voters. People who they are accountable to don’t give two fucks if pleb burn down parts of cities. They will get contracts to clean it up.

Hurt their profits is the only language they understand.

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Or, start taking the protests and riots to their doorsteps.

They don’t care when you burn the areas they don’t live in. But when you take the protest to them… They scream and call for more cops. But in the time it takes for the cops to show up, you can do a lot of damage, especially if you have a thousand friends.

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The people protesting are most likely a extreme minority. Also they are often politically affiliated which accomplishes nothing

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Don’t forget that they are either caused by FBI like Jan6 or infiltrated within days like summer of 2020 and BLM in particular.

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Imagine still saying in 2023 that Jan 6 wasn’t Trump and his ilk and blaming the FBI. Youd fit right in on Truth Social

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I’m telling you, an army of vuvuzela-players and mimes to follow elected officials around in public, with a shift roster to get 24/7 coverage. No media interviews without the droning hum of a vuvuzela, no photo opportunities without a sneaky mime making an exaggerated lewd pose in the background, no pleasant meals with lobbyists without a distant but audible brrrrrrrrrrrr.

The media chooses not to report on peaceful protests all the time, but they always give coverage to Gaetz, Cruz and Graham talking absolute shit. Make them edit the videos to take out mimes and vuvuzelas.

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Do you want fascism? Because vuvuzelas are how you get fascism.

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So that’s why FIFA and the London Olympics banned them? /jk

I just want what the interviewee wants. Media that can’t easily ignore the angrily trumpetting elephant in the room.

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They didn’t like the competition …

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Sir, this is a taco bell

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Yeah obvs the police would side with and defend the politicians, you’d never be allowed to do that.

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Police can arrest someone for playing a vuvuzela and being in the background of a photo? Probably, but… what do they charge you with, a noise disturbance? Better than an assault charge. The police are going to defend the rulers no matter how peaceful the protest.

CW: police violence
Remember when those UC Davis students got pepper-sprayed while sitting? Or “don’t tase me, bro!”?

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So instead of lame immature protests, just kill ‘em.

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