Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
Dad is heading in to visit Mum at the hospital tomorrow (she broke her ankle, has to stay a while) so I might make them both some coffee and take it to them in my keep-hot cup. I think they’ll like my coffee, I make it double shot. I hate having relatively early nights on a Saturday, I feel like a loser… but I’m tired so (Mario style) heeere we go! zzz
Ugh, work office is so stuffy because they are playing with air quality control for night shifters, feels like I’m going to need to start gulping to get enough air in me.
My spooky playlist is behind and I am stupid tired today. I need to get a reign on this fatigue that seems to have reared up this year. On a random note, I’m impressed with the silicone moulds I purchased.
Hope everyone is okay this evening.
The majority no vote reflects a few things:
- Many are uncomfortable with race based provisions in the constitution ( the fact one is already there didn’t mean we should add another - it’s an argument to remove it).
- Australians don’t trust politicians or activists and need a higher standard of proof that something is going to work before putting something in the constitution forever.
- While Australians are not against taking action to assist aboriginals in need (or anyone else for that matter), they are strongly committed to equality in law and in representation in the constitution. Any assistance targeted at particular groups should be accountable, specific and temporary. If an ill defined body is embedded forever and becomes untouchable no matter it’s effectiveness, this creates conditions for corruption.
- Australians are practical people and are not easily moved by rhetoric.
- Australians will resist moralizing and condescension.
- Australians are tired of lip service, committees and reports saying the same thing.
What I find very disappointing about the Yes campaign and some yes voters is that they have taken no responsibility for the loss. There doesn’t seem to be any consideration of the possibility that the Voice was not the best idea, or any consideration that the campaigning for it was poor. Instead everyone who voted no is branded as racist or dumb . There is an arrogance here which has ultimately led to what is shaping up to be a crushing defeat, and unfortunately this arrogance continues post mortem. Nor does there seem to be much respect for the will of the people, which the outcome of this referendum represents.
What I would expect the government to say at this point : “We fucked up and we take accountability. We ran a very needless, damaging and divisive referendum. We need to find a better way to address the gap that involves the government actually doing their job, starting Monday”.
You lost all credibility at “aborigines”. You know this is 2023, right? Unfortunately most Australians are motivated by rhetoric fed to them by Murdoch.
Instead everyone who voted no is branded as racist or dumb
I hated the idea and don’t think it was useful for anything than opening dialogue.
But opening dialogue could have been done other ways.
I voted yes because it’s another step.
First Nations people already have voting and political rights, they have equal treatment under law and equal access to government monies. I want them to use that to the fullest extent possible.
If it were me and I was in government I would ask what kind of lives they want and I would provide the opportunities for them to achieve that. For each person .
As were most people who voted no. Many just have a different vision of what is good for society. Being a democracy we have to accept that there will always be diversity in belief and opinion about society, even when we vehemently disagree.
Aussie Enviro, Food and Frugal are looking a bit slow.
The quicker Glaze time was nice but it still threw up the same insufficient protection error, so I cranked the settings up to maximum and ran it again to see what that time is like. lol. I’m still waiting. I should have done it with single images as a control and written the times down…
Playing Minecraft is also probably slowing it down. But I’m bored waiting. Lightning just struck the hut again, 3 times in a row. It’s lucky I added a lighting rod and didn’t tame any more cats.
I’m feeling really uninspired. Maybe I’ll make an underground mushroom garden or an underground grow room. Or try to find new mushrooms/plants. All I really want to do is explore, but then that means I have to go further for new stuff after updates. Unless I limit myself to one direction, or a four point axis that still leaves widening pie slices of unexplored territory/never loaded chunks the further out I go.