422 points

Dear YouTube, if anyone there ever reads this.

I tried not to block ads, I would let the preroll go and usually not skip it.

I started skipping ads when they started getting long. I recall some were several minutes long at times.

I started leaving videos part way through when there were mid-roll ads, and those got long enough that I’d often forget what I was even watching.

I started blocking the ads outright when I would be watching a relaxing video, and a very loud mid-roll ad would blow out my goddamn eardrums.

Fuck you YouTube. You abused your users, you chased off good content creators, and now you’re offering people no carrot and all stick. How about you offer to match the volume of the ads to the videos, limit the length of ads to something reasonable, and nicely tell viewers that you are making ads less annoying and that unblocking the ads helps pay the content creators.

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177 points

I used to make animations for YouTube, which weren’t monetized because I hate ads, and one day they copyright struck me for some very provably public domain music, but the way they did it was to insert ads into my video without my consent so they could monetize them to send the money to the scammer who flagged me. So I just deleted my entire account, fuck them.

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39 points

That didn’t stop you from making cartoons, did it?

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86 points

No I just went to Vimeo lol

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47 points

if they’re anything like cable ads, they actually make the ads louder than the regular programming on purpose to try to make sure you hear it if you tune out or just walk away. no relaxed, unfocused watching for you!

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37 points

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9 points

Lmao “you purposely made your stuff shit. Now, if you offered a basic service without all the shit, I might pay for that.”

Bruh, you don’t pay for something because it’s not shit, you pay for something because it’s good. By paying for a basic service simply because it’s not shit, you are incentivising them to enshittify their service and offer a premium “not shit” version, instead of actually improving their service.

It’s just like the people who buy the new iPhone because it actually has a headphone jack this time.

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NewPipr

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They get away with this because people don’t use the alternatives. Odysee and Rumble are actually good alternatives. No, they’re not as good as YouTube, but they’re good enough. We just need creators to also upload to those platforms. Since YouTube keeps banning and demobilising them, this problem might solve itself.

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22 points

Rumble is 100% fascist Nazi bullshit, not an alternative

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-7 points

If your feed is “100% fascist Nazi bullshit” may I suggest you watch less Nazi bullshit, and stop subscribing to them?

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1 point

Curious, how does monetization work on those platforms? The bigger “Content creators” typically will be making videos as a job, so to draw them you’d need a halfway decent way to monetize.

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1 point

They have ads, but I think YouTube pays better. Which I suppose is why creators stick with YouTube for now.

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144 points

If you’re using uBlock Origin. Go to “Filter Lists” and Purge All Caches. That may help.

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44 points

I imagine they’ll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.

It’s a shame, and it’s really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren’t as cheap as they are today, they wouldn’t be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.

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84 points

I suspect ad blocking will always be an arms race. The server can only ask the client to play the ad, and then rely on the client to truthfully report whether it did so.

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41 points

I’m sure they’ll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web that allows them. It’s one of the good things about projects like Gemini. I used to think it was only good for the novelty of having a web alternative protocol.

No doubt Big Tech would lobby for Microsoft to use Windows to flag Gemini browsers as malicious and then run FUD campaigns against the Gemini protocol

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23 points

But then you’ll get prompts for “What product did you just watch an ad for?”

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8 points

It’s only a matter of time before they start embedding them into the video like podcasts do and you won’t be able tell the difference between ad and video with software.

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That’s why there pushing Web Environment Integrity (essentially just DRM for the entire internet)

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39 points

Someone will create an extension to mute the ad and overlay it with suitably timed bite sized cat videos.

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3 points

Oh, that’s just brilliant! Instead of being interrupted by intrusive ads, I’m seeing videos of fluffy cats doing adorable and funny stuff all the time.

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29 points

You can block twitch ads. I literally never see them. Use https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions/blob/master/vaft/vaft.user.js with Tampermonkey.

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12 points

Also, checkout S0undTV if you use android TV.

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21 points

Will to be fair, Google is an ad company. We should have seen this coming.

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9 points

Worst case scenario I think I’d just resort to downloading the videos to watch. Live videos is the challenge, but luckily I don’t watch live streams.

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-6 points

Bruh, your not gonna believe this, but the ducks at the park are free. if you use one of these, you can download all the ducks you want. I downloaded 9000 ducks so far.

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7 points

They’ll start banning Google accounts, that’ll stop quite alot of people just because of how many users use gmail or drive.

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4 points

I don’t think they’ll resort to that because that would mean getting rid of their own source of income. YouTube may not be getting ad revenue, but they still collect data and that’s where the real value is.

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26 points

I just did the zap element thing on that warning. So far so good, except you can’t scroll down.

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40 points

I see this as an absolute win, since that means you don’t have to read YouTube comments.

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2 points

Lmao

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4 points

I occasionally see ads on Youtube. I’m not sure if this is related.

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4 points

Can we pin this?

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2 points

…temporarily it might help

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134 points

to people saying YouTube is a moneysink for google:

yes it is, if you just look at direct expenses of running it. but you’re overlooking the fact that it has enabled google to amass so much data(we’re taking about 500 hours worth of videos being uploaded per minute) that they can train anything with it.

it’s a service that’s too big to fail. even whole governments, courts, and other institutions depend on it. so, I refuse to believe that YouTube will be non-existant because a sliver of users refuse to be profiled by invasive advertisements.

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121 points

I am much, much more likely to be willing to pay for Ublock than I am YouTube.

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112 points
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I haven’t watched live tv in almost 20 years because I refuse to sit through ads, and I definitely won’t sit through them on YouTube. If it was a banner or some thing on the page or the side of video that would be more acceptable, but sitting through ads to watch a YouTube video….there’s just no way.

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2 points

You could subscribe

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I basically don’t subscribe to any streaming services, but we got the family plan years ago and share it with a few friends and family that chip in a couple bucks each.

It’s so affordable and the content on YouTube is second to none.

I’m so happy to help content creators earn a living content I genuinely care about rather than studios led by c-suite committees.

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5 points

Oh you sweet summer child

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-44 points

Lemmy users only want to use foss and not pay a single penny. How dare you suggest they pay a tiny amount to help pay for servers and the creators they’re watching!

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Some of us are legitimately broke (or on a very limited income). I get that some folk believe it’s the capitalist way to force us to starve or succumb to the elements to demonstrate to others that humans have no value other than their productive worth to some plutocrat.

Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die!

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16 points

It feels like a culture war between corporations and the OG user base. They reeled us in and monopolized the market with the idea of “free”. Now that competitors are few and far between, they want to change the game and reel in literal billions. I have absolutely no sympathy for their “lost profits”. They are making enough as-is, and I have no problems saying that out loud.

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5 points

Lol you again being a cuck. Literally a perfect consumer. Give all your money away, and maybe I should give you a link to my PayPal since you’re such a philanthropist. Take your privilege and fuck off

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