196 points

Stop funding it.

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It’s this part.

We’re telling them they’ve gone too far, seeing rules… and giving them weapons. Are we giving them seasons so they listen?

And if they don’t listen, doesn’t this make us complicit and with exceedingly poor intensional optics?

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They know that the worst that will happen is a stern warning. “Don’t do that again, but it was justified. But don’t do it… OK, just a little bit, but still.”

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The wink and the nod really spoil the effect of the stern look and strong finger wagging…

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7 points

I think they meant to say sanctions, not seasons.

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7 points

“We’re telling you not to do this thing, and we assure you all we’ll ever do about you still doing it is to tell you again not to do it whilst carrying on helping you to do it”

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21 points

How much Israeli money do you reckon went into the pockets of members of the fascist “freedom” caucus?

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11 points

Congress would need to initiate it unfortunately

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Perhaps stop funding Hamas. USA has given Palestine several billions of dollars in aid, which they divert to the hands of Hamas. Ditto for rest of the western world. It isn’t just Iran and Qatar who enable them, it’s all of us.

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Your post uses double speak. Opening with Hamas and switching to Palestine.

Hamas was democratically elected but they stopped allowing elections. They don’t represent Palestine and intentionally conflating relief efforts with funding Hamas comes off as more than a little racist.

If you’re parroting some news source you may want to look for your news someplace else. If these are really your own views you may want to examine them if you don’t like sounding racist.

If you don’t mind, then by all means, carry on. Just don’t expect to be taken seriously outside of right wing circles.

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Also worth adding, since people don’t seem to realise this: The majority of Palestinians alive today were not of voting age when Hamas won those elections, and a very substantial proportion were not even born.

And even then, of course, while Hamas won the largest number of votes, even back then they still only had the support of a minority (ca. 44%) of the electorate.

Exit polls during the same election showed near 80% support for a peace agreement with Israel, and 75% who wanted Hamas policy towards Israel to change. In other words: It’s also disingenuous to see even the support for Hamas that was there in elections as support for the more extreme aspects of Hamas’ actions.

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Biden: “For fuck’s sake, Israel, don’t do something this monumentally stupid.”

No points for guessing what comes next.

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72 points

Is it ethnic cleansing?

Oh boy!

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39 points

“Here I go killin’ again!”

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20 points

That’s been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don’t think “next” is the right word.

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9 points

Ethnic cleansing comes next. It also came previous, but it will come next, too.

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I don’t see why they’d need to occupy anything. Occupation would imply that you wanted to control that area and those people. I think Israel knows occupation would never work and wouldn’t try it. They’ve preferred to wall-off people in enclaves, slowly squeeze all life out of those regions, and when the people they have cornered inevitably violently lash out against their own slow-motion genocide, it’s time to flatten the area with bombs again. Israel calls it “mowing the grass” and I don’t think a massive occupation fits with that strategy. I think they want to break the region, scatter the people, and leave it to rot, not occupy and be forced to manage it into the future indefinitely.

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Turning it into the world’s largest open air prison is occupation.

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I have 500 on anyone who evacuated the Northern area is denied re-entry and the maps change to gaslight the world into thinking Gaza was always that small.

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Biden needs to be primaried.

The democratic party keeps making the mistake of picking a winner early.

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It’s too late. None of the state parties have any of the setup done for a primary. Once an incumbent president (of either party) declares they’re running again their party automatically backs them. I just feel lucky we have incumbent primaries for Congress.

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I mean, I’m voting for West. Democrats only hold power if we say they do. Just don’t vote for Democrats ever again. The only control we have is over ourselves let’s exercise it

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Or what?

Edit: FYI I’m not supporting Israel doing this

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Or they’ll give them even more money and say some angry things about it.

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The USA could end homelessness or hunger (and maybe both) nationally for the amount of money we sent to Israel each year.

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No, no they could not lol. Not even remotely close.

The US spends $2 Billion a year on aid to Israel.

They spend $105 Billion a year in direct payments to SNAP (food stamps) recipients.

And $32 Billion a year on section 8 housing vouchers.

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23 points

2 billion dollars won’t solve a single thing, nationally.

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That homelessness and hunger are not ended in the USA is not because the money needed is spent on other things, it is because the government doesn’t want to end them.

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7 points

Glhf passing that bill

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11 points

“Or else we will be very, very angry with you. And we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.”

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Or the region could destabilize and the US has diplomatic cover to limit their hypothetical response to a more defensive set of operations.

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72 points

Massacring civilians is fine, but occupying is a bridge too far, I guess.

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I definitely get your point here, but a ground invasion would be irreversible. They would never leave Gaza

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25 points

Haven’t they done it twice before? Something like 2006 and 2014?

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They didn’t demand evacuation back then. They invaded, killed a bunch of people, declared victory, then left (obvious oversimplification). This time, they ordering the civilian population to leave seems to be an indication they expect to invade, murder stragglers, then annex the land once it’s empty and leveled. It does seem to go along with the rhetoric of “exerting a price they’ve never dreamed of”.

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Death is kinda irreversible too

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7 points

Agreed. Just needed to point this out

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66 points

warehouse workers ask Jeff Bezos not to travel by private jet

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I mean, the US does have access to the money and weapons faucet Israel relies on.

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