Quick headsup for the Mazda owners here. It has been removed due to a cease and desist from Mazda, unfortunately.

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Putting Mazda on my no buy list 📝

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Yup, I’m in the car market and shit like this immediately makes it a no-buy.

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There are worse reasons to not buy an automobile, but lack of app integration is probably the silliest reason I’ve seen so far.

Privacy issues, subscriptions for basic features, removal of physical buttons in favor of janky touch screens…the list is endless and you guys settled on the app not working on a 3rd party system as the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

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Yeah but there are too many brands out there to choose from; as a consumer our only power is to speak with our wallets.

Corporations don’t get to pick and choose which actions from them result in lower sales; all of their actions are judged, and by all potential customers.

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2 points

I don’t see how it’s silly.

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Hyundais and Kias literally have the defect of exploding into fire. The manufacturers say not to park indoors. That’s a great reason not to invest in one of their machines.

I’ll take a broken third party integration any day over an unsafe car.

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Not really sure how you can DMCA other peoples code when the only thing of yours it references are API endpoints which, while not intended for general use, are publicly available.

That seems like an abuse of the DMCA.

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Wasn’t it a cease and desist rather than DMCA?

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The article states a DMCA notice was sent to GitHub.

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Recently certain Mazda Information, including proprietary API information, was used to create code and information posted to GitHub.com identified in repository of bdr99 ([private]). This repository contains code developed in python (https://github.com/bdr99/pymazda) and javascript (https://github.com/bdr99/node-mymazda), and appears to have been uploaded and used to create computer code associated with home-assistant.io and mobile applications. MNAO analyzed some of the code and determined that the code provides functionality same as what is currently in Apple App Store and Google Play App Store.

Wow, what a rediculous statement that has absolutely nothing to do with copyright. As far as I’m aware you can’t copyright the functionality of your app

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My guy, you couldn’t read the first paragraph in the OP link?

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I must’ve skipped over that bit, my bad

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Ok, Mazda, not considering you for my next ride then.

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I’m only just starting to use home assistant, but what are the kind of things people do when integrating their car with HA? Is this for stuff like controlling charging speed with your solar panels?

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I’ve seen people do things with the Tesla integration where they turn the car heaters on X minutes before it’s time to leave for work on a work day if the outside temperature is less than Y

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The hyundai app is really unresponsive. So I’ve used the integration to create my own version of it. It also let’s me tie in other things like garage doors and security cams in one place.

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So DIY home-assistant based cloud-relay is better than custom made purpose built cloud-relay by muliti billion dollar company? xD

Which is both hilarious and a testament to the power of Home-assistant and open source (and I suppose it says something about how much Hyundai cares about their app)

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It’s crazy, right?

It’s because hyundai outsources the front end development to a different company (maybe a subsidiary) called bluelink.

The APIs are pretty good and, I assume, would be done by the hyundai team directly.

The issue really is the front end being bad ux and poor implementation of those apis

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The Mazda app allowed you to track the location of the automobile, turn it on and off remotely, activate hazard lights, and lock/unlock from the HA integration.

Most of what I used it for was to see where my dad had taken my car with the GPS tracker. Sometimes I would fuck with him and turn on the hazards.

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