Gaetz said they should focus on domestic issues instead, like republicans care about domestic issues
Does he not know that NATO was created to counter the threat of the USSR?
54% of American adults read below a 6th grade comprehension level.
So there’s a good chance the answer is ‘No’.
And after the USSR collapsed, there was a real hope that we could integrate Russia into the Western system. But ultimately we could never have that because Russia is the main antagonist for Europe.
Without Russia as a threat there is very little reason for EU to bow down to American supremacy. So instead of NATO getting smaller after Russia became a shell of its former self, the alliance got bigger.
Yeah that’s what their propaganda says. In fact there was never any application, or even a serious discussion about it.
Oh and don’t forget about oppressing women. That’s a huge domestic priority for them!
Who are the ones fighting for biological men to be allowed to win all the women’s sports, scholarships, awards, and use women’s safe spaces again?
They’re not lying. Domestic issues, as in lining their pockets. Cutting their taxes and the rich. Getting bribe money. You know. Domestic issues. How is sending money to Ukraine benefitting them? It’s not. Domestic issues are more important.
So let me get this straight……
The republicans are telling the democrats “stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, spend it here in the USA”. The democrats are the ones controlling the spending, so they could spend it domestically to, for example, try and clean up the homeless criminal hell holes that at are places like San Francisco and LA.
You, clearly a democrat voter: “As if republicans care about domestic issues”, when it’s the democrats that are choosing to send all the money to Ukraine instead of caring about domestic issues.
Is that right?
Seems Lemmy is even more of a far left biased place than Reddit.
Republicans control the House.
However, when the Dems did recently control the House, they managed to pass the infrastructure act, and the inflation reduction act, two huge pieces of domestic legislation.
When the Rs had the House, Senate, and White House from 2016-18, they refused to pass any kind of infrastructure act, despite that being one of the cornerstones of the Trump campaign. The only thing they really did was pass a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans that raised taxes in the middle class and increased the deficit.
Now that you mention it, what ever happened to infrastructure week that Trump promised back in 2017?
😂 Here in Australia I’m what you’d consider left leaning. I’m all for gay marriage, equal rights, anti-war, and so on. I’ve literally never voted “far right” or “conservative”. Not once in my 20+ years of voting.
But sure, pretend that the democrats aren’t left wing because….reasons.
Btw the second you accuse others of being brainwashed just because you disagree with them, you’re the extreme one in the conversation.
send “all the money”? That alone tells me you have no understanding of American aid to Ukraine, both in scale and in nature. It’s neither “all” nor is it “money” - the Americans sent old military hardware for the most part, and the monetary value is barely a drop in the bucket compared just to their yearly military expenditure that they’d spend regardless. Actual monetary support is much more of a EU thing anyways.
But sure keep whining about centre-right policies of the USA and the EU, calling them “far-left”. Actual far-left people tend to not supportive of sending aid to Ukraine.
It’s kind of crazy to see someone who clearly loves their own voice, but clearly doesn’t understand what the fuck they’re talking about.
Back to the kiddie pool, Nazi.
homeless criminal hell holes that at are places like San Francisco and LA.
Have you ever been to either city? Because that is not in any way a fair description. Anyway, don’t people like you usually use Chicago for this sort of aspersion?
It’s common Republican lingo to refer to California, and anywhere wherein, as a “hellhole”.
People are literally just walking out of stores with stolen goods at will. People are doing drugs on the streets out in the open. People are breaking into cars in broad daylight.
Are these things not happening despite all the video evidence and new articles about it happening?
Go look at where and how that money is being spent. I think you will find that the vast majority of it isn’t leaving America. American businesses who already do business with the American government will do a little bit more, sending consumables and other assets to Ukraine. From an economic standpoint this is little different than a 10% increase in the American military budget, with the bonus of no expectation that it will be the new baseline going forward.
From an economic standpoint this is little different than a 10% increase in the American military budget
Is that supposed to be a selling point?
A 10% increase on the biggest part of your budget by far is a ridiculous increase.
I know you’re just a loser posting obvious trolls because you don’t have anything good to do with your life.
But you do realise you’re crying about “far left bias” on an ammendment that got shot down with MASSIVE bi-partisan support? Like, again, I get its just a troll comment but you’re still implying the majority of republicans are far-left. Maybe next time go for something more believable, or better yet, go outside and make some freinds instead.
Never thought conservatives would be in putins pocket, but here we are.
…Really? Republican and Russian kleptocrat values align perfectly, so why wouldn’t they be allies?
If you lived long enough, and heard the “Kill the Commies!” comments coming from them, you’d understand why.
Except Russia hasn’t been communist for three decades, and is in fact exactly the opposite.
There goes my hope this stuff stayed on reddit.
How many times do republicans have to be caught taking money from Russia and working with actual Russian officials before you’ll accept that it’s a real issue?
When they are actually caught.
If this was more than a political scheme and they were actually in Putins pocket then the FBI would have busted their asses, not let them go about their day handling poltical affairs. They would go all out McCarthy on them, especially if the evidence was so overwhelming as you suggest.
All this is just manufacturing of consent to keep you in line with the two party system.
Never thought conservatives would be against a small country fighting for their freedom and join hands with our cold-war enemy. How patriotic of them.
In case you missed it, the cold war was fucking stupid. Furthermore I would argue that the US’s bad behavior at home and abroad ramped up MASSIVELY once they didn’t have a counterbalancing superpower they had to take seriously.
I’m in no manner against ukraine fighting. My problem is with the US spending money on it.
I couldn’t care less which corrupt Eastern European government is the legitimate sovereign over eastern Ukraine. What difference does it make? Is it worth the hundreds of thousands of dead young men? Or the food insecurity crisis in the global south? The worldwide inflation?
People have been tricked into thinking enriching the pockets of Lockheed Martin & Co is somehow helping freedom and democracy.
Don’t get it twisted, that’s why we’re in Ukraine. It’s primary purpose is a mainline IV injection of cash straight into the military industrial complex. Hundreds of billions. Meanwhile we struggle for years to give a handout to the American people.
It’s a joke, I feel like we live in a parody movie sometimes.
I don’t think thats fair. I think the idea is that a dictatorship invading a democracy in eastern europe is something the free world can’t allow to happen, same way they couldn’t if Iran invaded The Netherlands, and this is why all of europe and the US are helping them defend themselves.
Not sure how you could get “pro-war” from that.
You don’t think thats fair…
Have you read the first comment in this thread?
They claim the richest chunk of the political establishment of the richest country on the planet with the most roided up intelligence/military apparatus in human history is in the pocket of the arch enemy of said country and said intelligence behemoth
Compared to that every statement is resonable. Arguing nuances while ignoring the ignorance of the premise is past the borders on ridiculousness.
Russia is much less a dictatorship than USA… The ‘free world’ caused unimaginably more suffering, death, and injustice in the world than Russia ever has. Sending weapons in support of Kiev regime (yes, it’s a regime by definition) only prolongs the suffering of people, both Ukrainian and Russian.
Russia cannot lose this war. If faced with an actual prospect of being defeated (which is not realistic in any capacity) it would employ nuclear weapons, which would be disastrous for us all! So west is really only gambling on prolonging the conflict to destabilize EU, hurt Russia’s resources, and in the process destroy entire generations of Ukrainians.
Responding to myself. I don’t actually believe what I wrote, I just wanted to point out reductive statements are are easy to make and maybe too broad a brush for an entire group. It is possible to oppose the US funding of this war without being in Putin’s pocket. What about the nine democrats who either voted against military aid or failed to vote?
Yes, it is possible to be a moron in congress, there’s a reason they’re called representatives.
How long till we find out at least 50 of them have accepted money or gifts from rich and powerful Russians? I’m guessing at most 2 weeks.
Wtf is with the massive influx of right wing losers/ troll farm accounts on this thread. I’ve never seen this many on lemmy before
It’s a fantastic honeypot. I blocked a couple dozen trolls and went about my day to a cleaner Lemmy experience. 👍
I think most of them are actually tankies, which lemmy unfortunately are rife with. Their behaviour and opinions, especially on Putin’s Ukrainian invasion, are completely indistinguishable from the right winger’s opinions on the matter.
Which is unsurprising, since both groups uncritically just regurgitate Russian talking points on the subject.
I’m not one of them, but if you only want opinions that match your own then what’s the point?
Its not about wanting to hear opinions that match my own. Its about not wanting to hear obvious trolls, like the guy claiming the republicans that voted against this are far-left extremists, or the guy talking about how were funding Nazis and being Russophobic. They are very clearly not sensible comments made in good faith.
Because he’s implying there are no actual troll accounts and I’m just angry that people disagree with me, when that’s not the case. Lots of comments here are obvious troll posts
Probably because any one can join in, not only, “lefty apologists”
I am choosing not to say any thing one way or another.
TIL if you’re against pointless wars you’re a “right wing loser”. I thought liberals were for peace.
Defending your democratic country from the foreign invasion of a fascist regime.
How pointless indeed. /s
Last I checked, ukraine is not part of the US, and thus, the US is not under invasion
tldr - its exactly the people you expect
