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It doesn’t look like the meme is mocking his culture, only his religion. On top of that, it appears to be calling out his hypocrisy when it comes to secular American politics. So I don’t really see how an Atheist Jew would take offense to this meme that’s mocking a religion they don’t follow, as well as his theocratic-inspired American legislation efforts.

I’m not even an atheist, I’m Catholic. I just saw this meme and thought it was funny because I too think Ben Shapiro’s religious dogma is both bullshit and at odds with half the shit he says. If he was a Christian and these “bigots” made fun of his crucifix instead of yarmulke it wouldn’t really bother me.

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You serious?

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This is the dumbest response to any sort of argument and meant intentionally to make an argument rather than a discussion. Facts don’t care about feelings, but people do. And if you don’t care about the person you are talking to you are just a hack looking to exploit.

Granted I’m human and have made this mistake when people forget about facts and try to bring them the side I see and have faultered. But I’m not trying to exploit it into a brand of morality and claim I am better than anyone else either.

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I can see that reading isn’t your thing. In a podcast, yes it’s a hacky gimmick that right wing dumbasses repeat because critical thinking isn’t about as abundant as teeth or girls that they share amongst themselves.

But when you are actually talking to someone, feelings do matter. Or you are just blurting out stuff for your own ego. Your facts don’t mean shit to the person listening unless you care about how they are receiving the information.

No one, and I mean this stronger than I do to anyone I have ever said anything to (including my son or mother), no one, is so important that their information is above this social norms.

There is no saving humanity conversation like in the movies. Or some dumb hero’s quest with your knowledge. You are just like the rest of us. Your facts are easily found. The relationships you have with people are not.

Feelings do matter in the real world. It’s a snake oil salesman pitch to sell a “real man’s” cosplay that people buy because they can’t look internally to actually fix themselves.

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😭

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Goddamn, you really got yourself worked up there, and a shit take to boot. Most of the time that someone uses the phrase “facts don’t care about your feelings” those people are arguing in bad faith, cherry picking data and purposefully excluding context to cater to their desired conclusion. My go to example is the statistics of violent crime convictions by race. There are so many extraneous details to that statistic that you could never truly conclude anything based on that statistic alone. It fails to take into account the environmental conditions, social factors, economic factors, and biases in the justice system when you present that statistic at face value.

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Oh look what you’ve done. You’ve driven me to point at Sartre’s antisemite quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

— Jean Paul Sartre

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Is it really a ‘god’ if it can’t see through fabric?

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well that just misses the whole point lol

not that I agree with religion, but your argument is a strawman built on ignorance

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All Abrahamic ‘gods’ are touted as ‘all knowing, all seeing’. They, allegedly, have unlimited powers. It’s not a strawman to point out inconsistencies in a touted ‘perfect’ religion.
Mythologies are based on whatever-you-want-to-believe-at-the-moment, not facts.

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If you could see what’s going on in everyone’s heads all the time, you’d also come up with a way to avoid looking at some.

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I’d like to think, as an all knowing omniscient being, that I’d come up with something a little better than hat-that-doesnt-entirely-cover-your-head

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It’s a sacred hat, we mere mortals can’t see the glow it emits covering the whole wearer in an “ignore this” field. 😇

‘Hacker Hoodie’ Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light

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Well if you’re seeing through everything all the time then you aren’t seeing anything. You’ve gotta pick what you’re going to see and that precludes seeing what’s behind it. Unless we’re talking about some omniscience sense. But then that’s not seeing.

A Jewish friend once explained the yarmulke as just being polite to god. “He doesn’t want to look down and see that.” I had never thought of the crown of the head as an offensive area. 🤷‍♂️

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But "god is everywhere all the time’ so ‘he’ won’t necessarily be looking down. he may be looking at you, or from below, behind, etc.
This ‘god’ is touted as having unlimited power; able to do anything. he would be able to not see what he wants, when he wants.
Religious ‘rules’ and stories make no sense. This ‘god’ flooded Earth but had noah build an ark with animals. Then he drowned everything on Earth. Mass genocide. Why drowned all the living? Are you not a ‘god’? Why not just make people disappear? Did he not have an ‘un-create’ button on his laptop?

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I wonder how ordinary people thought about this kind of thing 2000 years ago. Did they even have this notion of “god is everywhere?” They had no idea what the sky or stars were, so maybe they just thought god was literally up there. And did they have these elaborate mind teasers about omnipotence or did they just think god was vastly more powerful than us?

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Ben Shapiro’s Jewish…association and his Kippah are two of the least offensive things about the man, the first of which is he commonly argues against people because of how icky they make him feel.

I have few issues against Jews. I have plenty of issues against transnational white-power affiliates and bigoted assholes. And Shapiro is demonstrably both.

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