The avalanche has just began.

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Can yall idiots just fact-check for a goddamn second? https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/10/16/no-windows-12-is-a-free-upgrade-and-wont-require-a-subscription/

Edit: Just type “windows 12 subscription” into your search bar. It’s fewer words than any of these comments!

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No man dont ruin Linux rabid users from bitching about Windows.

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Someone mentioned Linux!

I use Arch btw.

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But but but that’s not as fun as hearing a bunch of Linux users bitch about shit they heard once maybe.

Really though this website seems to have more misinformation and just general stupidity than even reddit.

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I simply just hate windows and dont care if its true or not. they sell you without subscription.

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It’s only free since they assume you’ll be paying for windows11 subscription.

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163 points

if this is true I might actually stop being lazy and mess with Linux for my personal systems

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109 points

Please do.

One of us, one of us!

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There is no “us” or “them”. If Microsoft will maintain its streak of spoiling everything they touch, everyone will switch to Linux sooner or later 😉

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Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice.

This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn’t have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There’ll likely be something you can help with.

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11 points

That’s true. We’re just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us.

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This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don’t have to contend with the unknown.

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https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/10/16/no-windows-12-is-a-free-upgrade-and-wont-require-a-subscription/

As it turns out, the rumours discussed by some outlets are based on the “IoT Enterprise Subscription” of Windows 11, not Windows vNext. For those unaware, Windows 24H2 or Windows vNext is what Windows 12 is being called publicly. As you can see in the above screenshots, the “subscription” code strings found in the preview builds are associated with a new Enterprise version of Windows 11 loT and have nothing to do with Windows 12 or future versions of the OS.

I’m not saying to use it or to not switch to linux, but maybe this isn’t that much of a concern.

I’d be more concerned about

the next version of Windows will be heavily integrated with AI and cloud capabilities.

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10 points

Windows accounts for 12% of their profits, and I’m willing to bet that the consumer versions are a very small part of that. Most businesses are not buying OEM licenses. They are already using a subscription model for M365 which includes Windows licenses or a standard EA or SA agreement.

They learned after the Windows Phone that they don’t need to win the client OS battle as long as they can get their other products on the devices. Since then Windows has really focused more on keeping you locked into the Microsoft ecosystem versus keeping locked into Windows itself. Hence why the upgrades have all been free where in the past you would have to repurchase each new edition of Windows.

Of course I could be completely wrong. They have done some bonkers stuff in the past.

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MS is completely focussed on the Enterprise market now. They need everyone to start using Office 365 early so they’ll keep using it at their job. They don’t really care what OS people run underneath, as long as it can connect to Azure/Entra.

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Agreed. Also why they’re more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let’s face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it.

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5 points

Good ol click bait titles.

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Couldn’t tell you, I’m on 10 myself because my laptop is old and doesn’t meet the TPM requirement. Which, tbh, is probably best.

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18 points

I’m an early adopter of Linux (early as in 96-97) but I also run MacOS and Windows so I’m I tell you this from an unbiased point of view. Linux has never been easier to run. My daily driver is a ThinkPad running Pop!_OS Linux and I never have to think about it. I just installed and everything ran.

I don’t game on my daily driver, I use MacOS for music. At this point Windows is relegated to Adobe Creative Suite, GeForce Now, and the occasional game I can’t run on Linux or GeForce Now.

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13 points

Truly ungovernable, mad respect.

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4 points

No doubt. LibreOffice is way better than the windows office sweet now. Seriously zippy fast and easy to use. And less stuff breaks.

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18 points

I haven’t found it that difficult. Just take the plunge.

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29 points

I’m not concerned with difficulty just that it’ll take a bit of my time

yes I’m lazy

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12 points

It’s very gradual and fun because it’s new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don’t dive into every single urge all the time.

Once you dip your toe, you’ll be at it for a long and good time.

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9 points

Just start by dual booting one of the “easy” distros and doing stuff that doesn’t require Windows. Eventually you’ll start spending more and more time on it out of comfort, then one day you may realise that you haven’t needed your Windows partition in months, and can skip out on it entirely.

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Another alternative is to use FOSS software this is available on Linux and Windows. Get used to the software before the desktop itself. For me, dual booting was a lot of work and wasn’t fun. Maybe live booting for a session or two could be a way to go? I never tried that.

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9 points

It’s easy if you know how to manage your anger

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oh I’m experienced with anger I assure you. I work with CSS and PHP in my job

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7 points

😱

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2 points

you’ll do fine then

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9 points

Or not. Swearing at the screen and punching the keyboard always feel cathartic after failling to do something for the nth time.

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1 point

well, lucky you. When i get super pissed i keep being tempted to snap my own fingers

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8 points

News flash, it’s not

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I made the switch about a two months ago. I’m using my windows side of my dual boot a hell of a lot less than I thought I would, mostly thanks to steam’s proton.

Started with zorin, but eventually landed on mint.

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I’m trying to narrow down today’s distro choices, would you mind telling why you switched away from Zorin?

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The file explorer has some pretty limited options, and not many features. Or at least, it doesn’t have some of the features I like by default.

It does have zorin connect, which is really nice, but I later found it it is a re-skinned version of KDE connect, so not much is lost by moving to another distro on that front.

It also seemed to not have as good windows support for certain things. BG3 kept on crashing on me for some unknown reason, with zero error messages to troubleshoot. On mint it worked first try, like it ought to.

At the end of the day, zorin just isn’t as customizable as I want, whereas mint is.

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4 points

linuxjourney.com is a good resource

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I’ve already been playing with Nobara and Linux Mint.

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I personally reccomend Zorin OS. The default GUI has the windows layout, so you won’t be too confused. Also it is very pretty.

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Hard agree. I got a friend trying to get me on linux, and I’ve just been on windows since my first pc.

But fuck it. I’ll maintain 10 until eol and then whatever Linux supports will be the games I play on steam.

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if you don’t use linux, why are you here?, not gate keeçing, but it’s linux memes, i didn’t know other people could find it funny

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I use Linux for work and on some virtual machines personally to mess around sometimes so I know my way around it

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To be clear, it may be a linux meme, but it’s a post about a possible future with Windows, that may lead some to switch to linux. Windows users being in here, commenting and asking questions, isn’t weird.

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or just crack windows (is faster than setupping everything in linux)

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Setting up a functional Linux environment can be accomplished within a comparable timeframe to that required for a Windows installation. When opting for user-friendly distributions such as Linux Mint or Ubuntu, the installation process becomes equally accessible for users, presenting no significant challenges when compared to Windows, so while you are entitled to hold this opinion, its factually incorrect.

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omg linux fanboy when a joke is made (he can’t handle a joke on his only reason to live)

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145 points

This was based on a report that was debunked almost immediately, y’all gotta stop reposting this every day.

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Nooo but it confirms my viewpoint :-(

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16 points

Oh that sweet, sweet confirmation bias hit. Nothing like it!

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Good luck, the vegans of the transistor realm have decided that complaining about fake news regarding windows is the best topic to just never shut the fuck up about.

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7 points

Are you OK?

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71 points

I love paying for spyware!!!

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Everyone here thinking it’s the beginning of the great migration :tm:

Sorry guys, people are just going to use cracked versions of windows to play games

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I suspect most people that only use their Windows computer for general stuff like web browsing, e-mail, multi media, office etc., which is probably the majority by far, will actually fall for the subscription scam.

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Yea sadly most people already do via an M365 subscription, if MS decides to tack an OS in with that, doubt many would care enough to make a swap.

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I subscribe to M365 because my kids’ schools all distribute their assignments as Word docs. And they apparently use the most obscure formatting features, so the only way to get them to render and print properly is to use full Office desktop. Not even the web apps show them properly, and LibreOffice / google docs import totally mangle them.

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