18:13 “Let me just say this really quickly you said Israel has a right to defend itself absolutely zero people think that this is a ridiculous statement however…”

🙋‍♀️ I think it’s a ridiculous statement.

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make that two

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11 points

Three

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75 points

I can’t bring myself to watch Piers Morgan a second time in less than a week. How did Hasan do?

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83 points

Pretty well. He kept getting interrupted by the bastard, and some of his points may have been incomplete for it since he was shouted over by Piers, he had hella names/quotes to back up the positions he was claiming everyone had on each side off-hand.

Piers ended it with, “Well, if it was as easy [as your solution], I’m sure it would have been done already,” dismissive twat, instead of acknowledging what Palesteniand deserve, like Hasan did at the end, rights-wise.

For being called a propagandist, he did a shite job disproving the fact.

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I think Hasan handled that distraction well. Piers clearly thinks that “propagandist” means “state-sponsored journalist”. Hasan said it as an offhand comment and then quickly shamed Piers for going on a tangent about how good his own reputation is.

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8 points

Match Point - Hasan

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59 points

I made it a couple minutes in before I wanted to do harm to Piers and had to turn it off

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20 points

It gets better in the second “round”. Hasan slow-rolled him and made him the fool, in my opinion.

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14 points

well i’ve had my weekend water so maybe i’ll try again

it may not help at all

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61 points

Morgan kept trying to talk over Hasan (because that’s the only way he knows how to “win” a “debate”), but Hasan kept calling him out on it.

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A part of me wonders if perhaps Piers intentionally got Hasan to just keep the discussion in regards to whether he’s (Hasan) a propagandist and making stuff up than have a direct discussion about the ethnic cleansing going on, either that or Piers took it really personally to be called a propagandist.

It’s funny that Hasan has criticized one or two other people Piers spoke to about what’s happening in Gaza, talking about what they should’ve said, but let himself get bogged down in something arguably trivial.

Also doesn’t help that Piers feels like he’s got a lib’s capability of understanding context; Every time a guest of his tried to give context for what’s happening in Israel-Palestine, I look at Piers and I can almost hear the sound of crickets. If you can’t given an ‘in a nutshell’ answer, you’re gonna get nowhere with him, and the conflict between Israel and Palestine is complex, insomuch as ‘Israel has committed unending cruelty and viciousness in the region and never stopped pretending to be the true victim the whole time’ is a simplified understanding of the complex nature of butchery, warmongering, belligerence, terrorism and genocide that led to what Israel is today.

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It’s easy to criticize while a discussion is happening I guess, less pressure and less in your head

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Honestly the best part of the discussion happened at the very end, when Piers asked what could be done about the violence and Hasan suggested that Palestinians should be made full citizens with the right to vote and the Palestinians who’d been forced out given the right to return and Piers quickly dodged the question with a half-hearted “if it was as simple as that I’m sure it would’ve happened already”. God I wish Hasan had gotten on him for that; Piers invites people to ask them what can be done, and when an entirely reasonable suggestion is made, it ISN’T discussed, just handwaved away!

Piers made it look like he’s up for discussions, but immediately dodged that with a stupid response rather than have a serious discussion about it; I deeply wish Hasan hadn’t let himself get bogged down for so much of the conversation, and frankly I don’t even believe Piers had to end it there, I’m 90% convinced he didn’t want to be grilled about this.

Every Jewish person on the planet has been given the right to return to Israel, so why not allow Palestinians the same right? Literally what difference would it make what their nationality or religion is? God I really wish he’d pushed him on this. I’ve a feeling Piers would’ve ‘realized’ he only has a whole two minutes for his show if he’d been forced to address it early.

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50 points

our himbo did good

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0 points

Glad he never covers breaking news

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60 points

Jeremy Clarkson may be a wanker but at least he punched Piers Morgan in the face once

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17 points

link please?

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28 points

It’s not on video. It’s because Morgan published photos of Clarkson cheating on his wife when Morgan was editor of The Daily Mirror.

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15 points

I can’t believe Morgan actually did something based. Is that real?

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21 points

oh, that must have been when he was “heading major publications, doing journalism”.

Cheers mate!

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