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Neymar now holds the record for most international assists after his assist against Venezuela.

Landon Donovan had 58, and there was a post on here last month that didn’t show anybody else who had more.

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So what’s you’re saying is Donovan > Neymar Jr.?

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Nah. The facts clearly say that Neymar > Landon Donovan.

But Landon Donovan > Lionel Messi > Cristiano Ronaldo

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According do joeDubstep Donovan is even better than Messi, lmao dude is delusional

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Donovan was unironically a pretty damn good NT player.

Real shame he sufferered from depression and took a sabbitcal after his loan at Everton.

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Dude also trying to break the record for most party night before an international game.

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Add to that, the fact that he faced mighty opposition in CONCACAF, like Barbados, Belize and El Salvador…

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Can only play who your confederation is able to schedule.

Similarly, I’ve always wondered whether there has been an Ali Daei for assists in CAF or AFC who just didn’t have their totals counted at the moment.

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Probs some weird shit like Nandor Hidekguti had 70 assists to Puskas alone in 1953

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Just to note, some of ESPN’s statistics aren’t Opta based, so I don’t know exactly where they got their data from (probably Transfermarkt).

Opta stats:

Ronaldo has 34 assists, not 45.

Messi had 53 assists, not 56.

Neymar has 58 assists, not 59.

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I’ve heard Lewandowski, Modric, Benzema, Suarez all have a better claim to 3rd greatest player of this generation over Neymar. Laughable. If you look at stats he passes with flying colors and if you do the eye test he passes with flying colors. He didn’t fulfill his potential I agree, but people talk as if he’s a complete failure.

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All 4 of those players, and you can add Bale to the mix, were just much better for much longer.

Neymar is probably the most talented of them all, but he was just never available and failed his teams time after time.

Best ability is availability.

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The Barça’s Neymar yes, PSG’s Neymar not even close. He seems to deal better when he has better company to put him into confortable positions close to the box from the left (who would’ve guessed), but in Brazil and PSG they insisted to make him a 10 and he absolutely sucks in that position

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Astonishing this. Literally every part of this comment is wrong.

Why do people have such strong opinions about players they clearly didn’t watch?

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People push this narrative of him “not fulfilling his potential” I just dont follow. He’s all time top scorer for Brazil and ahead of Roando and Messi for assists! How, by any metric, is that unfulfilled potential? He’s been the heart of several lackluster Brazilian sides but really can’t do much more. The diving just pisses people off, which I get.
History will treat him better.

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It’s simply because he wins no big trophies while leading a team

You cannot get away from that fact

Same issue with Kane

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This comment makes no sense. Looks at the trophy cabinets

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Laughable that Lewa has been a world class #9 since 2012? Who genuinely has the case to have two Ballon d’Ors and has scored at an insane rate since going to Bayern? And also led his team to a treble which is more than anything Neymar has done without Messi?

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tbh imo even Neuer has a better claim of being the 3rd greatest of this generation over lewa, modric, benz and suarez

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This is exactly true. Comparing a great attacker to the best goalkeeper to ever play the game just shows they don’t rate goalkeepers at all as if they’re not playing the same game.

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Suarez has a very strong claim to be the third best player in this generation.

Not everybody can win a European Golden Boot in the Premier League and La Liga in the era where Ronaldo and Messi scooped up every individual award.

He is a Copa America winner with Uruguay too…

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Ridiculous statement. Can easily be argued that Suarez has been better.

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I’ve heard Lewandowski, Modric, Benzema, Suarez all have a better claim to 3rd greatest player of this generation over Neymar. Laughable

It’s not. Neymar has been injured half the time since he left Barca, if you only count their prime years than sure.

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Defenders and midfielders always get the rough end of the stick, as they don’t have the same stats to back them up.

Just look at Xavi. He was one of the greatest ever but gets criminally overlooked in these discussions as his role wasn’t really to get goals and assists.

Similar with Modric.

I like your argument more when you compare other forwards - in that case, Neymar has a good shout at being the 3rd best forward of his generation

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Peak

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alá o chupa cu do neymar

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Chupa cu ☠️

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Neymar with Brazil was nuts

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Sadly for all his efforts he hasn’t won anything for Brazil. Not even a Copa America

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Olympics at least

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2013 Confed Cup, brought an end to Spain’s reign in the Final in front of a home crowd at the Maracana. Miss that tournament, it was a bit unbalanced and quirky, but it would be more fun to watch than an expanded CWC. I remember how Tonga captured the hearts of the world.

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2013 Confederations Cup.

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He won two olympic games.

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Just 1. He wasn’t on the team for 2020

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Olympic gold? (they beat us in the final)

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Damn his knee is not even cold yet and ppl are using “was”

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if you think of neymar you see yellow & blue kit first, not barca, not PSG

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