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VS Codium.

It’s VS Code, minus the Microsoft bullshit.

Source code is MIT licensed.

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I really wish the WSL extension wasn’t locked behind VS Code. My workflow is heavily reliant on it which locks me into the proprietary IDE.

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You should be able to setup WSLg then run the Linux Codium in WSL. Regular VS Code will work that way, it just gives a little “hey, you know you could use remote WSL right?” message then keeps chugging.

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The benefit of the WSL (and SSH and Docker) integration is that you still run the native version of VS Code for your OS, and just the server portion of VS Code runs on the ‘remote’ server. Running the whole of VS Code (or Codium or whatever) in WSL probably works but there’ll be little annoying things with it since it’s not running natively, for example you can’t drag files from Explorer into it, can’t have a PowerShell terminal open alongside a WSL one, etc.

I don’t think the SSH integration is locked down, so I wonder if you could install OpenSSHd in WSL and connect vis SSH.

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Is WSLg on Win10 yet?

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when I install codium (with yay, because I use Arch… btw) there is a package that just makes the plugin store the same as Microsoft’s. I found one that wasn’t working and that was MS pylance, I use pyright now.

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What’s the package called? Am on nix but might look into it later

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Have you tried manually installing it?

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Please stop treating code editors as if they were IDEs.

VS Codium/Code is not an IDE, and it never claimed to be. It’s a code editor, like Kate, Vim, Neovim, etc. It only integrates a language server for code editing and some static analysis. It does not integrate a debugger, build system, test system, execution, etc.

IDEs are old school large systems that integrate a code editor, build system, test automation, etc., such as M$ Visual Studio (not Cod(e|ium)), CodeBlocks, Eclipse, JetBrains software suite, etc. They are complete opposition of the UNIX philosophy that the program must do only one thing and do it well.

Besides, when dealing with IDEs, I used to like Eclipse C/C++ and Corrosion IDE because one could easily add link-time dependencies to a project and it generated sophisticated makefiles for you. Besides, if you have a more custom workflow, like auto-generation of source code from a domain-specific language, there’s no IDE that can help you. This is the downside of IDEs. Also, nowadays, I found that NeoVim+Coc with Meson build system makes the same thing and even better.

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Can you elaborate? I can do debugging, run code and tests in VS Code.

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VSC has JSON configurations for executing tasks but it’s non-trivial to configure. A proper IDE would provide a graphical, fool-proof configuration for that because it’s easy for non-professional to accidentally destroy your JSON file.

Also, if you have to use terminal in an IDE for trivial tasks, then it’s also not an IDE.

Not that I liked GUIs, but with IDEs, like Eclipse or Visual Studio, one wouldn’t have to configure something with JSONs.

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Vs code is an IDE change my mind

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vscode/vscodium + addons is an IDE

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It does not integrate a debugger, build system, test system, execution, etc.

All of those things have been available in VSCode and VSCodium as production-ready plugins, supported by major vendors (mostly Microsoft) from almost day one.

Weirdly, as an extreme example, VSCodium with the MSSQL plugin is a better SQL IDE than most dedicated SQL IDEs.

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As far as I’m concerned, as long as the editor alone can handle every step of the process from development to testing to version control to deployment to debugging, it’s an IDE.

I don’t care if it doesn’t natively ship with all these things and you have to append them with plugins. (I thought we championed software that doesn’t force bloat features we’ll never use down our throats?) The only applicable factors are that it exposes the extensibility to add them, and that someone has added them.

Does that make EMACS and Vim IDEs, too? If you’ve sufficiently tricked them out with plugins, extensions, and helper scripts to do every part of your pipeline without leaving the editor, then I guess so! It is an Environment that has Integrated everything you need for Development. If it quacks like a duck…

VS Code is an IDE, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.

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I just wish finding all references didn’t take an entire minute to show me a single reference though. By the time it loads I don’t even remember why I care what’s referencing the function anymore.

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Obligatory Emacs

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It’s probably Emacs, but I’m a Neovim user, so I’m going to go with that.

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Same here. Emacs is a solid choice, if you wanna get lispy. I just tend to prefer the vim way of things and don’t have the time and energy to try learning Emacs again at the moment.

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lispy?

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Emacs is basically a Lisp interpreter with other utilities, like a text editor, wrapped around it, allowing it to be self-extending. So, if Lisp is language that you like or are interested in, Emacs is a good place to be.

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vim

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Depends on your definition of an IDE, but nowadays vim can be extended to have basically any feature you’d like. Especially neovim.

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Depends on the language doesn’t it?

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Unless it’s something like an HDL for a proprietary FPGA suite, in my experience, not really, no. Just need a good LSP, Treesitter grammar, and the rest is just QOL. Not having to switch tools is a perk.

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