For those not aware, Google is rolling out their new AI-based “Generative AI” search, which seems to mesh Bard with the standard experience.

I asked it today why Google no longer follows their “don’t be evil” motto… The results are pretty hilarious.

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They’re about to kill -9 the AI process that wrote this and make all the other processes watch.

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Haha, kill -9 all Google processes, and the little daemons they rode in on too.

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Just added it to the massive Google graveyard next to Stadia, wave, hangouts, plus, music, etc etc

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Just added it to the massive Google graveyard next to Stadia, wave, hangouts, plus, music, etc etc

I am shocked and appalled that Google Reader didn’t get called out in this list and is relegated to the “etc” category.

It deserves more than “etc.”

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You ain’t wrong but Google just stacks so many bodies it’s impossible for me to remember em all.

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“kill” (stopping a software process) okay,
… but what’s the “-9” here ?

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Kill is the main command and 9 is the specific signal. Google SIGKILL

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More specifically kill normally sends a SIGTERM which is the equivalent of clicking the X button in Windows. It’s a polite request that the program close itself. Signal 9, also known as SIGKILL shuts the program down immediately and is the equivalent in Windows of opening the task manager and pushing the end process button. It terminates the program immediately without giving it any time to do anything it might still have pending, but in the event that the program is unresponsive might be the only way to successfully close it.

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Reason number one: it’s a publicly traded American company.

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Reason number one: it’s a company.

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Corporations are neither evil nor nice. They are indifferent. By design they only care about money, they don’t care about anything else.

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Not really. They’re not indifferent at all. In reality they act like narcissistic and like psychopathic humans. I watched a documentary years ago exploring that and talking with psychologists about symptoms and they agreed that they behave like psychopaths. And don’t forget that they are run by humans.

Corporations:

  • Can buy and sell stuff
  • Can do evil things without consequences (an employee can pay the consequences but the company will keep going).
  • They have no remorse or empathy.
  • Can manipulate to reach their goals, no matter who (from media to politics to countries).
  • Whenever somebody at the top can’t reach an economical goal, that person is fired and replaced by one who can. It’s like a hive evil mind.
  • Goal #1 is always money (absolute selfish and egomaniac), no matter what or who.
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Didn’t you just list a bunch of reasons for why they’re indifferent? They literally only care about money and are indifferent to externalised costs and ethics.

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By design they only care about money, they don’t care about anything else.

That is cartoon book clear definition of evil. No empathy, clear goal, willing to do anything to reach that goal - yep that is evil.

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Everything after your first sentence described evil.

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Nestlé has entered the chat.

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They are indifferent

They only care about money

They can’t be both, and since the latter claim is the correct one, then it also supports the claim that they are evil. Because since we know that their sole and primary concern is money, then we also know to which extent they will go to get that money.

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We need good guys with money to stop the bad guys with money

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The problem is the money makes them bad guys.

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Not being outright malicious but ending up doing malicious things makes this distinction pretty pointless.

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Tell that to Comcast…

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They are the stereotypical paper clip AI that will drain our blood to extract its iron content for more paperclips. Except it wants money.

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Correct in the sense that it’s the incentive scheme, i.e., capitalism (supported by state power, e.g., by enshrining the entity of a corporation and then enforcing its protection) that is the more meaningful, or at least actionable, cause of these behaviors.

While those incentive schemes are in place, ascribing too much agency to corporations themselves, i.e., calling them evil, is not particularly effective as it’s not going to change the underlying incentives.

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Most evil is caused by indifference though.

Someone who hates people can be talked to and potentially can change.

Someone who’s indifferent will use hatred as a tool to control people. When this tactic is successful, and indifferent person can’t be swayed from using it, because it works.

I mean if it were proven that google’s algorithms are encouraging violence, what would an indifferent person do? They’d ask, “is the algorithm making money?” And if the answer is yes, they would make no change to the algorithm. Because they are indifferent to the evil that they are causing.

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Ok but which one is the least evil? I’m gonna throw out Costco.

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Reason number 2: they have to continuously show increasing profit year after year.

Making $9 billion one year and 9 billion in next year is not good business apparently (9 billion was a number I pulled out of nowhere random number)

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Your reason number 2 is a subset of my reason number 1.

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Uhhh. Yes?

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Yup, the board can be sued for not being evil if not being evil ends up tanking the stock price.

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How do you use it? I’d like to try it out as well.

“Mom said it’s my turn on the world altering maybe not evil artificial intelligence”

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 this looks like it’s actually from their normal search with the labs feature turned on for ai. Bard is separate but uses the same tech.

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Correct! This is “generative AI” search, not Bard. This said, I would imagine it’s heavily based on Bard.

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I think you’re on a different page, this looks similar to, but more polished than what the internal version was.

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Thanks. I just tried it - I’ll fact check the token later. (I gave the same prompt to ChatGBT and it gave me incorrect information, and when confronted by my next prompt, it admitted that it was incorrect.) What was neat about Bard is that I exported the result to Google Docs and it’s here in my Google Drive. So if you like Google’s ecosystem, you might like this.

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Despite what the other guy said, this is not Bard. This is available in Google’s new search labs (just search it up) if you’re using chrome and in the U.S. I got it working in Safari in Australia using a VPN and changing the user agent when on the correct site though.

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I was able to immediately check it out on my Android phone by simply going to the Google App, and joining the beta program.

My companies SEO expert made me aware of this program a week or two back, and he has it running on his browser, but I believe that requires some sort of a waiting list (or, it did last I checked).

Edit: Oh, actually I can use it in a browser now as well! I just had to use Chrome to make that happen, and I didn’t notice that because I always use Firefox.

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These AI searches are really what I wanted AskJeeves to be way back in the day.

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I think it is called Ask now.

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I tried to use Bard to write some code the other day, and found it amusing that it doesn’t just make shit up that doesn’t exist, it makes up the excuses as well when you call it out on it’s bullshit.

Like you tell it a particular class doesn’t exist, and it pulls an old version of the compiler out of it’s arse and tells you it was deprecated in that.

AI doesn’t know where it’s limits are. It’s incapable of saying “I don’t know”. They have invented a digital politician.

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Reminds me of the alphastar AI that played starcraft 2. It was probably at the low grandmaster level, but a big problem with it was it didn’t know when to just say “GG” and quit. It would just start doing random shit and a human on the alphastar team would have to intervene and end the match.

It takes actual intelligence to know when you’re out of ideas, which these so-called AIs are lacking.

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But these things are NOT intelligence. Language is not intelligence. These are predictive language models.

Language is compelling but intelligence doesn’t require it.

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In the future we’ll be ruled (regulated) by AIs, to which legitimate citizens are allowed to upload one approved document to add to it’s training data.

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