Never talk morals with libs because these are the things they spend their time questioning. Whether or not it’s okay to use AI to detect CP. Real thinker there
Google already has an ML model that detects this stuff, and they use it to scan everyone’s private Google photos.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/googles-scans-private-photos-led-false-accusations-child-abuse
The must have classified and used a bunch of child porn to train the model and I have no problem with that, it’s not generating new CP or abusing anyone. I’m more uncomfortable with them running all our photos through an AI model and sending the results to the US government and not telling the public.
They just run it on photos stored on their servers. Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, and Dropbox also do the same. There are also employees in their security departments with the fkd up job of having to verify anything flagged then alert law enforcement.
Everyone always forgets that “cloud storage” means files are stored on someone else’s machine. I don’t think anyone, even soulless companies like Google or Microsoft want to be hosting CSAM. So it is understandable that they scan the contents of Google Photos or Microsoft OneDrive, even if they didn’t have a legal obligation there is a moral one.
Seems pretty cut and dry to me. As a tool for moderators to verify, rather than an unwilling witness having to report it.
196 and anti anti CP takes, name a more iconic duo
when they talk about this, there are identifiers that detect it and remove it automatically, you arent actually storing it in any way.
Hash lists exist yeah. But American law actually requires website hosts to keep the CP for evidence instead of deleting it. It’s why DivideBy0’s tool isn’t supposed to be used for American Lemmy instances. Like if you upload a flagged image to Google drive, Google is supposed to flag it, save it, and call the cops.
i get that its supposed to be for evidence but its really fucked up to have to put small time server owners through that shit, terrible law. got to be some other way to handle that
I agree. The DivideBy0 tool should be standard on here. Instantly deleting it when its uploaded and saving post ip is the best solution. More just explaining that anybody in the position to make a tool like that wouldn’t have to go out of their way to get source material because legally speaking, they should already have some. There are site hosts that ignore this law and just delete and ban instantly (as they should), but I think it’s important to explain why these tech companies just happen to have large repositories of CP to train AI on.
Isn’t that a good thing? Quicker to find it, remove it and hopefully find the one who’s spreading it and sent them to prison.
