Meanwhile in Germany:
Cleverly not counting nuclear as fossil is a joke.
Fossil fuels means it’s something we are digging up and have a limited amount of, as opposed to renewable energy. It doesn’t mean it’s necessarily fossilized lifeforms. Uranium and other radioactive metals are exactly like that, something we dig up and can run out of.
Damn all these German tears in the comments could be used for enough hydro electricity to actually make the German grid cleaner.
That wouldn’t be long lived, though, because when implemented in the current German fashion, they won’t be using salt water resistant equipment for cost cutting reasons and neglect all maintenance to cut even more costs. The tear powered hydroelectric plants will be rusted through and seized up in no time.
No it wouldn’t. It would never be built because the FDP would block it and Söder would refuse to have it built in Bavaria and Merz would say something about immigrants using up all our German salt on the tax payers dime all day long and Sahra Wagenknecht would mention that we wouldn’t need it if we were all good friends with Putin and the SPD would do nothing anyway and the AfD would blame the green party for not reactivating 45 year old reactors instead of building it,…
…different organisational levels of the Greens would endorse an oppose it at the same time, because it’s climate friendly but its building requires trimming a hedge of brambles on the neighbouring plot. A local citizens’ initiative against it would form due to widespread concerns about the plant’s working fluid containing the dangerous chemicals Dihydrogen Monoxide and Sodium Chloride, this initiative would run for the next council elections and win in a landslide. Then everyone would sue each other, and after about 5 to 10 years of legal battle, construction would be approved under strict additional conditions. By then, the cost would have doubled and the plant as planned and approved would be technologically obsolete and important components out of production, so there would be no other choice than repeating the entire planning and approval process all over.
Where is nuclear fossil free? Show me the unranium tree please.
Show me the rare earth tree for solar panels, or the carbon fiber tree for windmills.
You get that a “carbon fibre tree” is literally just a tree right?
(also, wind turbines tend to be made out of much cheaper glass fibre. Admittedly this does not grow on trees, but unless you’re willing to ban windows and home insulation too it doesn’t make that much sense to complain about it.)
The lobby green washed it, that’s how.
The term fossil free is just easier to accomplish, we should be using environment friendly, because that’s the goal.
The last time i checked, producing environmental dangerous trash for millenniums isn’t environment friendly.
Even in the best case it’s a bad solution, but now they are really really safe, not like before, trust me bro
Even though it certainly isn’t renewable, Uranium is not a fossil fuel. That would imply it’s made with the remains of dead organisms.
It’s even worse than fossil fuel:
Carbondioxide has its natural circle, if we stop burning fossil fuels nature can remove carbondioxide by itself.
This does not work for uranium or plutonium, and the pathetic tries to get it into a circle have polluted e. g. Sellafield UK and other countrisides.
While all power plants have a one time carbon cost to build and decommission, there is a continuous carbon cost to mining nuclear fuel. I think that’s what GP was hinting at.
Nuclear fuel lasts so long in modern reactors that it’s kinda a silly point though.
What you need to be looking at is lifetime carbon costs per kWh, that’s the only real meaningful comparison.
Uranium is a radioactive element. Part of the periodic table. Not organic. It was made by exploding stars mainly if my memory serves me right
I don’t know which word I like more steinkohle or braunkohle. Either way Germany can shove their energy policy right up their steinkohle.
But that doesn’t matter. The real issue is that people heat their homes with oil or gas. Luckily our great leaders are fighting the actual problems! /s
It “doesn’t matter” ?! I mean electricity is still a pretty massive chunk of the energy used in day to day life. I would certainly not say it doesn’t matter.
Also, a lot of people heat their homes with electricity, and sometimes even with heat pumps.
And I say that as someone still convinced we will not win against climate change.
I would not discount the utility of creating a culture of sustainability. If your entire populace engages in more environmentally friendly behavior, they are going to demand the same of their government and regulations on businesses. The Nordic countries didn’t accidentally become relatively environmentally friendly. There is pressure on all sides there.
People mocked Obama for saying to fill our car tires, but that’s what he was driving at. If we are more cognizant of our waste and inefficiencies, it creates a culture that is more environmentally friendly.
Also landfills ain’t gonna stop filling themselves!
I agree that creating a culture of sustainability is a good thing, but the example I gave does the exact opposite. It alienates people, especially the ones who now live in fear of going bankrupt when their heating breaks and they aren’t allowed to repair it anymore.
Jesus fucking Christ, why can’t people listen or read anymore? You’re allowed to repair your stone age heating devices. They give you 13 fucking years until that’s not possible anymore. The government throws money at you to transition to technologies that will benefit you from day one. Germans are just fucking bad at using the internet and believe all the far right bullshit that is spread by CxU and AfD.
Edit: people will go broke once the CO2 tax kicks in in the coming few years. Im not shedding a single tear for all those idiots.
Over here we got government help to replace our gas heater for a heat pump.
Note: here is not in Germany.
But still.
