Republicans have at long last elected a House speaker: Representative Mike Johnson, a fundamentalist Christian who was also once called a key “architect” in Congress’s efforts to overthrow the 2020 election.
Johnson finally secured the speaker’s gavel after Republican infighting left the House without a speaker for 22 days. He secured 220 votes.
Johnson is a four-term congressman representing Louisiana. His win also represents the rise of the MAGA front in the Republican Party. Earlier Wednesday morning, Donald Trump endorsed Johnson as House speaker—after quickly killing Mike Emmer’s nomination the day before.
This next election is going to be an absolute shitshow. I guarantee they’ll refuse to certify the election, and they’ll try to hijack the electoral college (again).
The 119th Congress will be seated on January 3rd 2025 and the presidential election certification will be January 6th. So if the Dems win the majority in 2024, they won’t have the power to deny certificatation outright. Though, I’m sure a minority will still object to every swing state like they did in 2020, just to draw it out.
Weeds needs trimming. Or in this case punching, stomping, and and a good old dick twist
And even if the 119th Congress was exactly the same as this one, the House Republicans can only do so much.
First, they would need to object to Electoral Votes with a Senator. (Unfortunately, this wouldn’t be hard for them to do.) Next, the House and Senate would separate to vote on each objection. Only if both chambers voted to set the Electoral Votes aside would they be set aside.
With a Democratic Senate, this won’t happen.
So the House Republicans can slow things down, but they won’t be able to overturn elections. This isn’t to say that there aren’t threats on the state and local level. There are. And if the Republicans gain control of the House and Senate, I could see them sustaining objections because “it must be fraud if Biden won,” thus giving the election to Trump. That just shows why it’s more important than ever to vote blue.
I’m betting on this guy not lasting until November 2024 (not sure what the over/under is on November 17, 2023).
How do you think he’ll get removed? It took them this long to agree on someone to elect, it seems unlikely enough of them would agree to remove him. They could maybe get the Democrats along with a small subset of Republicans to vote him out like the last time, but I’m not sure the Democrats would be up for that. Maybe if they wait until right before the election, but I can’t imagine the GOP being dumb enough to oust the speaker right before elections happen (although that does raise the question of who certifies the election if there’s no speaker. I’m assuming the speaker pro tem?).
I tend to agree, but let’s remember that Republicans ousted McCarthy, it only took one member requesting to call for a vote, and they had had a giant number of votes to get him in initially. Those maga Republicans are nutty, I wouldn’t count on them not getting pissed off and trying to break all the toys again.
What are the chances election denial just become the new norm indefinitely?
“this one’s marked Jesus Christ”
“Yeah we count those as for the Republican”
Hopefully, but I also doubt that will stop them trying to elect him anyway. Or if not him I’m sure they’ll find someone worse. I doubt we’re going to see another Democrat elected in the next few elections that doesn’t result in them trying to refuse to certify the election and just in general whine and complain while throwing around baseless accusations. If we’re lucky that’s as far as it goes, but considering how many parallels to 1920s Germany we’re seeing lately I’m very worried the MAGAts recent fascist dabblings are just a taste of things to come.
Outrageously false.
There is nothing that even comes close to settling that in any state at this point. Any speculation on the matter is as good as a handful of shit. Less, maybe.
Colorado has already blocked him from the ballot under the 14th Amendment Section three. Only a 2/3 vote in Congress will change that.
I wonder if that also makes write-ins invalid…
Like is he just removed from the ballot, or is he ineligible altogether?
Election law varies from state to state. But generally from what I gather, a write-in candidate is only valid if the candidate registers with the state in advance.
If there’s a winning plurality for Mickey Mouse in your state for a statewide office, it won’t matter. The state won’t be forced to see if there’s anyone there that has the name Mickey Mouse and then pick which (if more than one) was the individual meant by the voters. Someone has to register with the state saying that they’re going to run a write-in campaign for office with name XYZ.
Note that these details are a bit of a side track. The above person was talking about Trump being excluded due to the 14th amendment. However that doesn’t say “not on the ballot” — it invalidates people from office entirely. If applied to Trump, the not being on the ballot would be a consequence of being determined ineligible for office, not a method to make him unable to win. Also it’s all moot: while I think on the face of it the correct action would be to apply the 14th amendment to Trump, the fact of the matter is that this will not happen. States are not going to be willing to risk the political backlash from going down that path, so they will not.
a fundamentalist Christian
Yeah… we just call them christofascists these days.
Classic. You continue to generalize while ignoring the large diverse reasons these idiots vote this way.
Sure, lets start with racism, homophobia, ignorance, religion and greed. What other reasons do these idiots have for voting for politicians even pond scum looks down on?
Either way, they’re supporting shitty people and making life worse for everyone else just because they can, so fuck em.
And, he’s 3rd in line to the presidency.
Fucking fascists. This close to control. What a sad state.
“Breaking: Giant piece of shit selected by a bunch of other pieces of shit. Nation shocked”
They do, these asshats just refuse to believe they elect more than just greedy assholes, they elect the worst of the worst kinds of people so they need to deflect and say “you elected a jerk too so everything is even and I don’t have to worry about the people I elected.” It’s ridiculous.
This mf is third in line for the US presidency?
Please tell me I’m wrong. I hope I’m fucking wrong. Wtf America
Please tell me I’m wrong. I hope I’m fucking wrong. Wtf America
Do you want the good news or the bad news first?
I’ll start with the good news first
You’re wrong. He’s not third in line for the US presidency.
The bad news is
He’s second. VP -> Speaker
I got into wine about a month ago and wish I had sooner. It really isn’t as expensive as I thought it would be. I can buy a bottle of stuff I and my wife enjoy for about 20 bucks.
It would require two people to either die or resign. Granted the President is like 130 and the Presidency ages you in dog years so the likelihood he dies in office is higher than most. But then there’s a healthy Kamala Harris next up who gets to pick her own VP, who would then become first in line.
While I disagree with Kamala Harris on pretty much everything and don’t think she would make a good President, she’d be a lot better than this wanker.
The down side is it does position him high in the Republican Party making him a presumptive front runner unless another option emerges.
So all the Republicans would have to do is assassinate the President and they have their own puppet in the office to sabotage the nation?
No, second-in-line means there’s one person before them: the Vice President
California isn’t. We have an independent third party organization that draws the districts.
Heck Massachusetts is actually gerrymandered to hell and gone, but that’s just because of the Dems sense of fair play. They made sure that the Republicans have a single district that they have a shot at winning. Gerrymandering isn’t always a bad thing. It’s just always a bad thing when Republicans are doing it.
The “it could always be worse” fallacy. I’ll remember to ignore the chronic pain in my leg from a catastrophic injury because that guy over there is dead.
I didn’t expect to see such opinion outside of village Бухалово. This is why our countries are fucked. Keep saying “it could always be worse” each time new bottom is penetrated.
What do we call 200 people who sit together with 20 Fascists?