At this point, “two state solution” is as believable as “trickle down economics.”
I feel like Biden just keep repeating the talking points that worked for Clinton in the 1990s and being confused why progressives today don’t take him seriously. He’s better than the other guy by a long shot but his policies are decades old.
Okay, so if a two-state plan is the “old” policy solution what is the new, progressive one?
That’s a fair point because there isn’t another proposal. Except mine which is a one state solution where they all get access to their fscking holy sites and it actually becomes the Middle East’s only democracy instead of democracy theater propped up by apartheid.
The problem is that if the resulting state is a democracy with equal rights for Israelis and Palestinians, Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. This is the reason why I believe a democratic Palestine, with control of all Israeli and Palestinian territories, equal rights and protections, rule of law, separation of church and state, an independent judiciary, and a system of checks and balances, would be the best solution to this problem. However, neither Israelis nor Palestinians have shown to be particularly accepting of a democratic, one-state solution, so I’m not getting my hopes up.
The problem is religion being the founding basis for the Israeli state, and the solution is separating religion from the administration of the state.
Netanyahu has made a two state solution impossible. There are 500,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank who would violently oppose being removed.
100%. The Palestine territories are more like a handful of islands at this point, not a contiguous space.
Just look at this map, and look at how integrated the populations are.
A two-state solution is not viable, not anymore, they have to figure out how to live in peace together. And that means integrating into one country, no more apartheid, equal rights, freedom of religion, the end of the ethno state, the end of the theocratic state.
Upon some reflection, I suspect when politicans are talking about two State solutions today, they don’t mean independent countries, they mean Bantustans … Which isn’t going to solve anything, nobody’s going to be happy with this
Well, Hamas specifically has rejected a 2 state solution twice in recent history. Their official stance is to not negotiate for it and instead kill all jews and end the state of Israel. There’s no chance at peace til Hamas is gone, rightwing Israeli government is gone, and Iran’s nutjob religious class no longer control the state and export its cancer around the world.
But the Palestinian Authority hasn’t. It has, specifically, called for it.
Is this war against Hamas or Palestinians?
That’s the thing though, if Hamas have an approval rate above 50% isn’t it getting awfully close to a disorganized government and it’s people that’s engaging in a full scale war? It’s hard to say the war is against a terrorist group when the group is backed by a strong majority of the population that supports their actions.
2 states are unviable. There needs to be one inclusive state for all people of the region with serious reparations for the Palestinian people. Dual citizenship if people want it and 2 official langauges.
Peace is the only way forward. It happened in South Africa and Northern Ireland. It can happen.
https://www.theleftberlin.com/why-the-two-state-solution-for-palestine-is-impossible/
It’ll never happen. Israel will never allow the possibility for a non-Jewish majority to coalesce and take over the government.
And I don’t see hardcore al-Islamiyyun living side by side with jews. This would be a powder keg right from the get go, just look at how they treat each other for years now.
I just don’t see it. There are too many vested interests in maintaining an ever-present conflict to justify consolidated power in the hands of those who have it.
I’m going to save this comment and copy and paste it into comments on basically every news story ever.
