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I just don’t see it. There are too many vested interests in maintaining an ever-present conflict to justify consolidated power in the hands of those who have it.

I’m going to save this comment and copy and paste it into comments on basically every news story ever.

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Biden keeps lying. What else is new?

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Remember when Biden said he saw “confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading babies”? Then his office had to clarify that actually no, he didn’t. What a horrific and oddly specific thing to lie about.

I was pretty shocked when he said the Oct 7th attacks were “like 15 9/11s”. When did we become so sycophantic to Israel that a president could downplay the most sacred American date and receive so little criticism?

Now he wants to give away another $100 billion for war, and I can’t afford healthcare. Remember Bidens campaign when “public option” was his #1 talking point? Maybe Grandpa Joe forgot about it, or maybe he was lying the whole time.

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Yeah, downvoting cuz of American partisan politics. As a non-american, this whole approach to politics like supporting your fav sports team baffles me. Here in Europe, we try to catch politicians lies, especially when in government. Americans defend their politicians lying to the public. It can’t be more bizarre than that. Of course Biden lies with every chance he gets. He is just as rotten as any republican before, but since he is blue (democrat), let’s ignore all that lying. Same approach US takes when dealing with Israel.

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In American presidential elections we only get to choose from 2 shitty candidates. Many well intentioned voters view it as a zero-sum game; thus any criticism of Biden is seen as pro-Trump rhetoric.

I agree that Trump is worse than Biden, bit this politics-as-teamsports mentality is a race to the bottom.

Judging by policy, I believe the last left-of-center president was Nixon. He finalized the Civil Rights Act and created the Environmental Protection Agency. He didn’t do it because he was a leftist (he wasnt) or because he was a good guy (he wasnt). He did it because he was afraid of the massive protest movement happening at the time.

I wish we could apply this same broad based, mass protest energy to every president including Biden. But America(and Israel) has written the modern anti-protest playbook, and it’s super effective. Anti-Iraq war, Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd, etc. were all marginalized and crushed.

It sure feels like things will have to get much worse before they start getting better.

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Here in Europe, we try to catch politicians lies, especially when in government. Americans defend their politicians lying to the public.

Don’t generalize, neither of those are absolutes.

There are plenty lying sacks of shit still in European politics and lots of Americans who don’t want it from any of their politicians.

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At this point, “two state solution” is as believable as “trickle down economics.”

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How about a one state solution.

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That’s called future reality

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I can’t see Palestine ever accepting a 2SS. What do you think “from the river to the sea” means? The US knows this very well, so they’re happy to prop up Israel in a peaceful sounding way that is fully untenable. Maybe some sort of federated solution could be possible, but I’ve got my doubts there too. Either way, both states would need to compromise for any realistic possibility of peace.

tl;dr: shit’s fucked beyond repair :S

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The Palestinians already agreed to a 2 state solution at Camp David in 2000. Then Arafat turned around and told Israel and the US to fuck off because he wanted more money.

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It’s two-sided. Israel also does not want a functioning Palestinian state that isn’t under Israeli domination. Just look at how they treat the West Bank.

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2 states are unviable. There needs to be one inclusive state for all people of the region with serious reparations for the Palestinian people. Dual citizenship if people want it and 2 official langauges.

Peace is the only way forward. It happened in South Africa and Northern Ireland. It can happen.

https://www.theleftberlin.com/why-the-two-state-solution-for-palestine-is-impossible/

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It’ll never happen. Israel will never allow the possibility for a non-Jewish majority to coalesce and take over the government.

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And I don’t see hardcore al-Islamiyyun living side by side with jews. This would be a powder keg right from the get go, just look at how they treat each other for years now.

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Same goes for Kahanites. Fascists on both sides will have to be taken care of.

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A Belgian model might work. Two or for completeness’ sake three (Christians) federal entities, joint army, separate police forces, give municipalities the right to switch who they belong to by 2/3rd majority. Jerusalem becomes federal territory.

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