So I’m getting a promotion soon (yay!), moving up from just a line cook to sous-chef and I’ve only been with this company for a few months. Thing is that I’m still quite young (mid twenties) and will be the direct supervisor of some people a fair bit older than I am. Think 10-20 years older. It might just still be a bit of imposter syndrome, but the idea of having to tell people who have been in the business for far longer than I what to do and such really weirds me out.
I feel I wouldn’t like it if “some young brat” that just got hired almost immediately gets a promotion and becomes my supervisor eventhough I worked at the company for far longer. Though maybe not everyone feels like this.
Do other people who have experience with a situation like this have any advice on how to deal with this? It’s kinda been keeping me up at night…
Grown men and women older than you should be able to act like adults. Remind them that them being older than you also means that they should be much more mature than you when it comes to respecting authority and that them displaying that they can’t is probably why they didn’t get the position themselves.
How not to deal with people 101 😂
You’re basically telling OP to be condescending to them, which is a scenario that causes people to say “fuck this” and quit.
Being understanding and above any potential pettiness is the best first option, then be firm but fair if that doesn’t work.
Worked every time I did it but then again the people I work with aren’t easy and also don’t have “feelings” hurt so often. This world has officially been overpopulated by cowards and wimps and that’s the problem. Now is the time of the weak man and its destroying everything.
Sounds like a recipe for a toxic workplace that doesn’t do well in the modern world.
These days people are so cowardly that they don’t take the same sort of BS lying down.
I live this reality. My brother (whom I trained 15 years into my career and still doesn’t know half as much as me) is regularly my supervisor these days. He was promoted over me because has no problem lying to his superiors about the job while I have been punished for being professional, objective, and open about potential issues and difficulties that may arise. I was passed over due to INTEGRITY! It makes for a toxic work environment where ass-kissing is rewarded. He leads with fear while I would have lead with honesty and appreciation. I’ll probably end up changing careers over it.
IMO, maybe your situation is entirely different, but your employers set you up for failure by failing to promote from within. You’ll now be the victim of their shitty work culture.
Cool. I’d suggest you lead with friendliness and compassion. Reward good work and firmly (vary your tone by the severity) rectify bad work. Don’t cross any personal lines and don’t lose your cool when doling out corrective instructions. If your crew knows that they will be rewarded for goodwill work, they will give you amazing work. Make it fun for them but be careful to make sure to toe the line between boss and friend. I find that if I get too silly, people don’t take the job seriously enough…and when I’m too firm, they quickly become enemies.
Good luck and remember that your ego (which is pretty evident from your description of why you’re being promoted and your hard work) is going to cause a LOT of resentment. I’m sure you’ll find that at least a few people on your staff started out just like you and had that ambition beaten out of them.
Your first task is to identify who’s who, first by determining their sentiment towards you, who likes you, who’s indifferent, who hates you, if they hate, why…
Next, figure out their level of knowledge, who’s a fool, who’s a fool and thinks they’re smart, who’s truly smart and who’s smart but thinks they’re a fool.
With this map made, prepare your strategy. To start, don’t waste time on fools who hate you and the fools who flatter you, they’re a waste of time, but always treat them with respect, just don’t expend energy on them, as they usually sink themselves.
Treat those who are indifferent to you with respect and try to convert them into followers, showing that you understand their frustrations and problems that may make them uninterested in the work. But be careful not to become a psychologist.
Finally, regarding the people who like you, play it safe, subtly compliment them when you can, encourage their growth. If they’re the smart type who thinks they’re a fool, show them they have impostor syndrome and watch their morale boost. If they’re fools, understand why they’re fools, it might just be that they’re in the wrong position. But if it’s something worse, try to subtly keep your distance, so as not to turn a sympathetic fool into a new hater.
In conclusion, always treat people with respect, regardless of their position or age, remember that things change, tomorrow one of them could be your boss and you wouldn’t want to be humiliated because of revenge for something you did in the past.
I think this is really bad advice. I’d do the opposite: don’t bother trying to figure out how anyone feels about you and don’t treat anyone differently if you do find out. Just be respectful to everyone, do your job, and try to make everyone successful. A leadership job is about making the whole team successful.
The job of a leader is to ensure that the work gets done, and for that, you need trustworthy people who won’t let you down because they think you don’t deserve the position.
It’s not wise to assign an important task to someone you know doesn’t have the capacity to do what’s asked, or worse, someone who knows how to do it, but deliberately does it wrong to harm you as a manager.
Someone’s competency isn’t defined by their opinion of you. I’ve been a manager for about 16 years, and the vast majority of my relationships with my employees over the years have been very positive - I’m friends still with many who’ve retired - but they didn’t always start that way. I still say making a good faith effort to help the team succeed, including each person on it, is the way to go, regardless of what you think of them as a person, or they you. That’s also how you end up getting the respect of everyone.
You’re right that not every person is right for every job, but that’s a completely different parameter. Most people are relieved when you avoid assigning them to things they aren’t good at unless it’s a stretch/development assignment. I’ve had exactly zero employees who intentionally did a crappy job in order to screw me. People generally aren’t like that unless you give them a significant reason to.
Definitely agree, being respectful is the way to go especially if you have long wait til retirement or changing career fields. For some industries you will run into the same people over and over again. Try not to damage your reputation by forgetting that golden rule.
Also keep in mind that unless there’s some large incentive, a lot of older folks do not necessarily want to be in charge and have added supervisory “babysitting” duties. They just want to do their jobs and not be fkd with.
Go watch the Bear, they got it.
A good manager doesn’t tell people how to do their jobs. If a person doesn’t know how to do their job, they shouldn’t be doing that job, regardless of their age. The manager makes expectations known, tries to facilitate communication, and makes a reasonable effort to provide an environment for a person to succeed. Your job is to coordinate the effort of a team, so be understanding but do not allow yourself to be disrespected.
