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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Even if it’s easy to switch browsers or platforms or search engines, the one that appears when you turn it on matters a lot.

Google obviously agrees and has paid a staggering amount to make sure it is the default: testimony in the trial revealed that Google spent a total of $26.3 billion in 2021 to be the default search engine in multiple browsers, phones, and platforms.

It was made public after a debate earlier in the week between the two sides and Judge Amit Mehta over whether the figure should be redacted.

(Apple’s outsize percentage of the total is why that particular deal has been such a focus of the first weeks of the trial.)

Until now, these numbers have been closely held secrets, leaving competitors and analysts to speculate about exactly what it’s worth to Google to be the near-universal default choice.

He also said that he sees Yelp and Amazon as competitors and that, in such a hot market, Google has to do everything it can to stay relevant and compete.


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Relying on people’s apathy is a business model with eras of success. Most people have never changed a setting other than dark mode, and even then that’s probably your average superuser.

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you are actually onto something. When Neeva went under, they were a paid search engine, they made a post explain why. The hardest part was getting people to pay a monthly sub, but getting them to change the settings

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36 points

This validates my stubborn commitment to DuckDuckGo, ty

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11 points

Which defaults to Bing, to whom ddg sends all your queries. I use ddg.

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5 points

Approximately 16% of their revenue or 29% of their profit. I’d take that tradeoff any day.

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I dunno on one side we have Google trying to wreck the entire internet and have their ads in your face 95 percent of the time.

On the other side is Microsoft who won’t leave you the hell alone when pushing they’re shit tiers programs and steal defaults on a weekly basis.

To me the only solution is ruling both companies monopolys and fining them to hell and breaking them up. Both are out of control and ruining computing and the Internet.

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And in the meantime, become a farmer! /s (you’d still have John Deere problems…)

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Google could be broken up into

  • search
  • chrome / gsuite
  • YouTube
  • gcloud
  • ads
  • android. And I’m sure more

MS

  • windows / office
  • azure
  • xbox
  • bing
    …I’m too tired to keep going lol

If those had to all survive independently and couldn’t leech off profits of the parent organization we could have true competition. Instead you just need one super-profitable arm of a company than loss-lead your way into other verticals and out-compete everyone else because you don’t have to turn a profit, at least while the competition is still clinging on.

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They would probably have gsuite and gcloud be one but yes.

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7 points

Ads are a core component of how search makes money. They’re also a core component of how YouTube makes money.

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9 points

Ads are what Google makes money with. That’s their core business. I would argue most of what they offer is just a different way of either delivering you ads or farming your data for…ads.

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A lot of those are still too big - Google ads basically just compete with facebooks. The two control the marketplace between ad buyers and sellers - too much power

YouTube itself is far too powerful too - it’s one of the biggest platforms on top of the default video hosting service, giving them far too much control via the algorithm

Microsoft’s Xbox isn’t a big deal, but the sheer number of publishers again gives them control over a marketplace

What we need is to force them to rent out the network at cost, the way we do with cell phone providers. Force them to host buy/sell offers at cost, and serve ads with a limited amount of profit

Plus, they’re too big even then - companies with that much money or control over discourse are a threat to democracy, full stop

It’s a very messy situation we find ourselves in, but it’s only going to get worse the longer we let it fester

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Xbox specifically could be broken up into studios, publishers, and consoles.

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