177 points

And it fucking blows now. You don’t get shit but ads.

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They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built!

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32 points

Yes, but have you considered, line must go up?

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26 points

For me it went from “great” to “usable” over the course of a decade or so, and then from “usable” to “worthless” over the course of six months. It’s a remarkably awful trajectory.

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And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It’s my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!)

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you can -something , but it isn’t full exclusion. It’s generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice.

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Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks

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14 points

It’s pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results.

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13 points

Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous.

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It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me.

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13 points

Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again

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19 points

I’m not a power user, but I’ve used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I’m using it. I’d say it’s a pretty seamless transition nowadays.

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11 points

You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that’s every search engine.

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I only use Google if DDG can’t find what I’m looking for. Usually Google doesn’t either if DDG can’t so lately I’ve been giving up after the DDG results. I can’t stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense.

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32 points

Yeah it’s so bad, the auto predictions dont even make sense any more.

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the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn’t there, or select, hope it doesn’t load, and delete the extra words

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17 points

And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad

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8 points

This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Google doesn’t work anymore.

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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13 points

And they want to force us to whitelist youtube from adblockers.

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68 points

I dunno on one side we have Google trying to wreck the entire internet and have their ads in your face 95 percent of the time.

On the other side is Microsoft who won’t leave you the hell alone when pushing they’re shit tiers programs and steal defaults on a weekly basis.

To me the only solution is ruling both companies monopolys and fining them to hell and breaking them up. Both are out of control and ruining computing and the Internet.

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Google could be broken up into

  • search
  • chrome / gsuite
  • YouTube
  • gcloud
  • ads
  • android. And I’m sure more

MS

  • windows / office
  • azure
  • xbox
  • bing
    …I’m too tired to keep going lol

If those had to all survive independently and couldn’t leech off profits of the parent organization we could have true competition. Instead you just need one super-profitable arm of a company than loss-lead your way into other verticals and out-compete everyone else because you don’t have to turn a profit, at least while the competition is still clinging on.

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7 points

Ads are a core component of how search makes money. They’re also a core component of how YouTube makes money.

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9 points

Ads are what Google makes money with. That’s their core business. I would argue most of what they offer is just a different way of either delivering you ads or farming your data for…ads.

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A lot of those are still too big - Google ads basically just compete with facebooks. The two control the marketplace between ad buyers and sellers - too much power

YouTube itself is far too powerful too - it’s one of the biggest platforms on top of the default video hosting service, giving them far too much control via the algorithm

Microsoft’s Xbox isn’t a big deal, but the sheer number of publishers again gives them control over a marketplace

What we need is to force them to rent out the network at cost, the way we do with cell phone providers. Force them to host buy/sell offers at cost, and serve ads with a limited amount of profit

Plus, they’re too big even then - companies with that much money or control over discourse are a threat to democracy, full stop

It’s a very messy situation we find ourselves in, but it’s only going to get worse the longer we let it fester

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Xbox specifically could be broken up into studios, publishers, and consoles.

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1 point

They would probably have gsuite and gcloud be one but yes.

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And in the meantime, become a farmer! /s (you’d still have John Deere problems…)

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59 points

They should have invested in their potential, their search engines. It’s getting shittier almost daily.

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8 points

Makes you wonder if they just stopped paying they’d have 23 billion more and I wonder what they’d lose in market share. If it is less than 23 bil it makes sense to just not pay.

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1 point

Good question, but I guess it’s all speculative anyways

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7 points

Bing seems a lot worse now than before the pandemic as well

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2 points

It’s become easier than ever to spam out websites and spam content. It’s a plague on the web and I’m not sure what the cure is.

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53 points

*To stifle competition FTFY

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37 points

Relying on people’s apathy is a business model with eras of success. Most people have never changed a setting other than dark mode, and even then that’s probably your average superuser.

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you are actually onto something. When Neeva went under, they were a paid search engine, they made a post explain why. The hardest part was getting people to pay a monthly sub, but getting them to change the settings

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