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“Huffman said in an interview that he plans to institute rules changes that would allow Reddit users to vote out moderators who have overseen the protest, comparing them to a “landed gentry.””

I had to google Landed Gentry, it still don’t make sense; “The landed gentry, or the gentry, is a largely historical British social class of landowners who could live entirely from rental income, or at least had a country estate.” That’s a weird way to describe an unpaid moderator. Either way, there’s no reddit to return to if they’re going scorched earth on the moderators anyways. This is home now.

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Sure sounds like an apt description of reddit admins. I wonder how the users would vote against Spez and these changes if he’s so interested in democracy all the sudden.

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12 points

It only makes sense if Huffman considers himself King; the moderators are a threat to his land!

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4 points

The moderators are unpaid workers farming the content. They’re serfs.

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2 points

And the commenters and posters are the crops being farmed? (Some would be weeds, I guess.)

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I saw somewhere that the analogy was supposed to be “whoever got there first owned the land.” The idea I guess is that the landed gentry settled down on the land (subreddits) first, and now the subreddit is a dictatorship because the users could never vote on who their “landlords” are.

Yes, that analogy is also terrible, and it also goes to show that spez has no idea why people hate landlords.

Edit: everyone that’s replied to me has provided more reasons why it’s a stupid analogy, and that makes me happy :)

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in practically all cases, the “landed gentry” were not there first - they mostly obtained title to their estates via political manipulation and legal skullduggery or, if they could get away with it, outright slaughter of the previous occupants.

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It’s also just not how landed gentry work, strictly speaking. So it’s a terrible analogy on multiple fronts.

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But that analogy would make Spez the king who rules over all the lands of Reddit-tania, doling favors out to people who support him and punishment out to those who oppose him no matter what the people of Reddit-tania want.

Wait, maybe the analogy has some merit to it after all.

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Thank you, your explanation made some sense of this metaphor. I’m not familiar with this period of British history, so this metaphor shot right over me. Either way, I’m interested to see how the voting goes.

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38 points

Lol I love how brutal these headlines are getting

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To an extend I understand the lost ad revenue for the 3rd party apps. But it seems like there’s a different solution, like requiring apps using the api to either pass through the ads or pay a per user fee, allowing for app users to get all the features they want for free and pay som small monthly subscription to remove the ads…

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12 points

make third party apps available to Reddit Gold subscribers, implement reasonable api feeds, etc.

There were a lot of solutions to this, however the real money is probably in the Reddit app harvesting user data that they could resell to advertising companies

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I would have not liked this but it would have been understandable and OK. $5 a month for something I got so much use out of is peanuts. That’s the amount I’m contributing to Beehaw right now anyways.

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9 points

Up until a few days ago, I thought Reddit Gold was just the awards. I had no idea it was an ad-free subscription. Reddit could have easily converted me into a paying customer by offering a personal api key that i plug into my favorite 3rd party app. The $5 more than covers my api calls, plus opportunity cost from not seeing ads, plus it would have kept me feeding quality content into their machine. What a series of ridiculous missteps.

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This is further supported by their plan to block mobile browsers from viewing Reddit at all. Native apps can harvest far more data than websites can.

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“But I think the greater Reddit community just wants to participate with their fellow community members.”

When despite widespread protests and even after overwhelmingly one-sided polls against your view you still don’t see the discrepancy between what you think and what seems to be widespread opinion and concern.

As they point out it’s beside the point anyway. People want to participate. But protest becomes a necessity and is deemed essential under these circumstances.

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46 points

Imagine looking at what Elon is doing to Twitter and thinking “that’s a great idea”.

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Just saw a comment regarding Twitter’s troubles:

Last time I checked, if a company has more than 12 creditors — as Twitter does — then any three of them can join together to put a company into an involuntary bankruptcy proceeding. And Elon is in danger here. At some point, the creditors he is mindlessly stiffing on a regular basis are going to get sufficiently pissed to throw Twitter into bankruptcy.

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Honestly this is the silver lining of Elon buying the company; endless entertainment from watching the smoldering wreck. I do feel bad for the folks that were actually getting value out of using Twitter before his acquisition, but it’s fascinating to see Twitter constantly finding new ways to fail to meet everyone’s already-low expectations.

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21 points

Joke’s on us, that’s exactly what he thinks.

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