99 points

I still don’t know whether you’re supposed to hit those and I also don’t know if it’s normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

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It doesn’t really matter, they don’t expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

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46 points

Nah, you’re a robot man. We caught you.

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8 points

That’s what a bot would say /s

But you’re right, the UX sucks, and there are other ways to detect and limit bots that don’t impact legitimate users as much - but Google needs to train their AI, and developers need to cargo cult stuff.

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7 points

These things feel like they are made by microsoft. You click somewhere, wait 3-10 seconds and then you can click again.

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-6 points

A bot trying to solve the captcha would be very fast so it makes sense that they block fast solvers.

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24 points

and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human

which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it’ll let me through… I can’t be that bad at doing them lol

Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.

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6 points

Have you tried using an automatic CAPTCHA solver (e.g. Buster)?

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4 points

Yup, as soon as I moved to a privacy-focused browser, pi-hole, and VPN, I started getting a ton more captchas and they had many more in a row.

I consider it a badge of honor.

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7 points

I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha’s

it’s infuriating

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12 points

I think you should do what the majority of people would do

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2 points

This has been memed about forever, no one knows what the majority does.

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4 points

Most people do.

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Isn’t it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won’t notice before clicking continue, thus failing

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The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

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2 points

Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.

It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.

Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.

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7 points

AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.

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9 points

It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

It probably checks your answer against the current model’s best guess and if it’s close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.

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1 point

Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

I do that and as long as it’s not too outlandish it lets me through.

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3 points

That was in text captcha days

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2 points

I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there

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81 points

Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

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27 points

I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I’ve forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.

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4 points

Do you usually do them quickly? Try slowing down next time, and you’ll get through with less captchas.

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22 points

If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

They kinda do. This is the way the “free” model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.

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10 points

Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.

Now that they’ve run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.

Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.

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1 point

That might have been the point. It’s also saved me countless hours of my life being able to navigate anywhere at any time with step by step instructions on how to get there.

There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far

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40 points

Whenever I get a capcha of anyone on a vehicle, I always make it a point to highlight the entirety of the driver too because I’m not going to just let Google train its self-driving vehicles to just ignore that every motorcycle has a rider on it.

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The worst for me is the motorcycles one; half of the pictures are of motor scooters. Does it count those as motorcycles or is it counting on the user to know the difference because they’re not technically the same thing?

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I was about to make a similar comment but you beat me to it.

It recently showed me a bicycle as part of “select all motorcycles” so I didn’t pick it. And I failed. Twice. Finally picked the bicycle and it let me through. Guess the computer knows best.

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7 points

It also does it the other way around. I failed recently for not calling a motorcycle a bicycle.

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Beatmeattoit

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34 points

Same shit with bikes. Is the rider part of the bike or not?

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Consindering that we’re training Ai to be safe on the roads i would say the rider is the most vital part.

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Well the seat post is under their butt.

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