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We use metresticks now.

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How many times hotter is that than my temperature banana

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Incidentally, China is the single largest contributor of GHGs in the world. Their coal fired power generation is immense and incredibly damaging.

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Because China is a country with the third largest land mass with the second largest population in the world. But per capita, they produce half of what an American does.

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Ok? Thats a great way to ignore the problem. How does it reduce emissions?

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It’s not ignoring the problem, you are complaining that we are running out of food because that group of a billion people are eating too much when you have over twice as much food on your own plates, and saying the solution is that they should be forced to eat even less.

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2 things about this; the planet don’t care about per capita numbers - 52.2 is gonna drop that population real quick. I doubt that would even slow their ruling class down

Second fuck is America a bad comparision. Those 2 will race to a scorched earth quicker than a nuclear war ever could

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Exactly, the world doesn’t care. The average co2 footprint per person globally is around 5 tonnes and as we’ve noticed, that is way too much for our planet to handle, one estimate is that we would need to drop that to below 2.5 tonnes.
China at 7.5 per person is a lot closer to than Canada at 18, Australia at 17, US at around 15 or Russia at 12. EU on average is close at around 8 I believe.

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Both need to significantly reduce their emissions. We do not need deflection for either.

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Thank you, I’m so sick of hearing it. It’s just another cop out from climate change deniers.

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This is actually not true. The US has contributed almost double the total emissions of China.

https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

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OP said China is there largest contributor. That is true.

OP did not say China made the largest contribution historically.

This isn’t about historical. What’s done is done and we need to act on what can be changed now. We can’t change history. Your link is useless.

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You have to measure per capita. A population 4 times the size of the US, you can’t compare straight numbers.

Their one child policy is probably the best thing that ever happened to reduce greenhouse gas emissions too.

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Maybe a stupid question, but is this measured in the sun or shade?

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Temperature reports like this always use in-the-shade measurements. You can get much higher temps when measuring in direct sunlight, like easily 100C+, depending on the material of your measuring device.

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Thanks. So the 60 degrees in Spain were also in-shade. That is truly messed up.

If politicians didn’t reassure us frequently there is nothing going on I’d really start to think we are in real trouble.

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60deg in Spain was ground surface temp not air temp, air temp was like 40deg.

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I love that last paragraph lmao, imma steal that

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Ok, so it doesn’t mention wet bulb temperature anywhere, so I went to figure it out. The first thing I was surprised with is apparently most of online calculators don’t take in values higher than 50C.

I couldn’t find the exact data about humidity for that day, but it has been 35-40%+ at a minimum for most days in that region, sometimes even reaching 90%.

So, 52C at around 40% humidity is 37.5C in wet bulb temp. The point of survivability is around 35, and most humans should be able to withstand 37.5 for several hours, but it’s much worse for sick or elderly. 39 is often a death sentence even for healthy humans after just two hours — your body can no longer lose heat and you bake from the inside. That’s like having an unstoppable runaway fever. And with that humidity it’s reached at 54C.

We’re dangerously close to that.

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Just out of interest, what would be the wet bulb temperature at 90% humidity? I’m not familiar with that temperature scale.

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Wet bulb temperature is basically converting to 100% humidity equivalent, so as you get closer to 100%, WBT approaches measured temperature. We use this metric because our bodies cool mostly via evaporation, and no evaporation is possible at 100% — the air is already fully saturated. So in general, WBT means minimum possible temperature that can be reached by evaporative cooling. Once your body loses the ability to cool, it rushes to match surrounding wet bulb temperature (or even exceed it, since we produce about 100W of heat energy by simply existing).

So 52C at 90% is about 50C WBT. Survivable for mere minutes for some, and probably for about an hour or so for most humans. Definitely not survivable for a full day.

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and here I thought 33 C is already hot enough

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