- Hamas-run government says Israeli strikes on Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza killed at least 195 Palestinians, with concerns raised by the UN that these could constitute war crimes.
- Evacuation of foreign nationals from Gaza is underway, with 320 already crossed into Egypt; about 7,500 are expected to leave within two weeks.
- The strikes targeted Hamas military leaders and infrastructure, with Israel’s campaign responding to Hamas’ cross-border attacks from Oct. 7.
- U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is set to visit Israel and Jordan to discuss the conflict and the need to minimize civilian casualties.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
GAZA/JERUSALEM, Nov 2 (Reuters) - More foreign nationals prepared to leave the besieged Gaza Strip on Thursday as the enclave’s Hamas-run government said at least 195 Palestinians died in Israel’s attacks on the Jabalia refugee camp, strikes that U.N. human rights officials said could be war crimes.
Amid growing international calls for a humanitarian pause in hostilities, conditions in the seaside enclave are increasingly desperate under Israel’s assault and tightened blockade.
Dr. Fathi Abu al-Hassan, a U.S. passport holder waiting to cross into Egypt on Wednesday, described hellish conditions inside Gaza without water, food or shelter.
Ashraf Al-Qudra, a spokesman for the Gaza health ministry, said in a televised news conference on Thursday that the main power generator at the Indonesian Hospital was no longer functioning due to lack of fuel.
He plans to meet Israeli officials including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday to voice solidarity but also to reassert the need to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties, his spokesperson said.
In Jordan, Blinken will underscore the importance of protecting civilian lives and reiterate a U.S. commitment to ensure Palestinians are not forcibly displaced from Gaza, a growing concern of the Arab world, Miller said.
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I don’t see the benefit to slow rolling the release of foreign nationals in Gaza. Why is it going to take 2 weeks?
Reasonable answer: Because they need to ensure that everyone has a place to go and won’t cause an international incident when the border (so Egypt) devices that they don’t have a valid passport or are going to become a homeless person or whatever. Also make sure there aren’t any known terrorists sneaking out.
Real answer: So that the IDF can murder more of them
I doubt the real answer is to murder foreigners, someone is benefiting from a slow releases of foreigners… not sure who gets the most negotiation leverage here.
Partially because Egypt and Israel have increasingly become something approximating allies. So same logic as the US
But also? The majority of “arab” nations dislike Palestine on the best of days. So the usual bigotry against any immigrants amped up a few notches. Think Mexicans in the US or the Polish in the EU (and a big driving factor for brexit in the UK).
But there is also the active fear of Hamas led Palestinians becoming terror cells or trying to stage a coup. Egypt in particular has been fighting for years against, allegedly Hamas led, Islamic terrorists for years in the Sinai.
Similar to the (allegedly?) Iranian backed terror groups in Yemen.
So yeah. There will obviously be some light condemnation. But nobody is going to do anything about the IDF killing Palestinians. Because Israel becoming even more of a pariah an the inevitable long term destabilization from pocket groups for decades to come is the real goal of this. Having fewer Palestinian refugees is just a “bonus”.
It’s the third massive bombing of the refugee camp. On of the most densely populated area of Gaza which is the most densely populate area on earth.
When will the World stop Israel indulging in this Blood thirsty revenge ritual ?
when is the the fucking humanity going to stand up to this rotten world order ?
The world long ago has proven to care very little about actual human beings. The world cares only about politics and power, everything is power struggles no matter the human cost.
Honestly I am sick and disgusted how for example the US is using another conflict for nationalist propaganda, e.g.
Posting on social media Biden wrote: "Today, thanks to American leadership, we secured safe passage for wounded Palestinians and for foreign nationals to exit Gaza.
They reiterate that Israel doesn’t have the right to indiscriminately kill civilians, while also vetoing every UN resolution calling for a ceasefire or even a pause to ease the humanitarian situation.
The world is appalled by 1400 victims, but at the same time turning a blind eye at the human toll on the Palestinian side.
By the end of this conflict the number of civilian casualties would be much higher, the number of traumatised kids and people, who have lost relatives, and/or roof over their heads would be even higher and this would have solved absolutely nothing as a new wave of desperate people would be pushed into radicalization and hatred towards their oppressor.
RIP peace and human rights!
The world isn’t turning a blind eye, western powers are. Even then, literally everyone in the UN except the US and Israel voted for a ceasefire.
Engaging groups like Hamas, isis, or other groups that are highly integrated into the civilian population is ugly business. Hamas is not a conventional state actor with military assets on bases or mobilized for action. It’s uncles and sons and brothers in the homes of family.
The carnage in Gaza is horrifying, but Hamas isn’t likely to form lines and face the IDF in honorable field combat.
Removing the threat posed by Hamas will have an absolutely horrific cost in civilian lives. After oct 7, “the world” seems to agree that Israel has some right to remove that threat. Hamas leadership crossed a line, and like all war the cost will primarily be paid by the ordinary people who were unlucky enough to be born in the war zone.
And no one has yet proposed a better way to stop Hamas from firing rockets and prevent another attack on Israel. The only advice people give to Israel is “just stop fighting and die”. The world left Hamas alone to fester in Gaza and now that they hit Israel too hard and their end was decided everyone and his dog cares for the people of Gaza.
Israel is the most powerful military force in the region. They’re not going to die if they stop the fighting. In fact, the current fighting is doing half of hamas’ work for them. Israel is hamas biggest recruiting tool. Peace is the only way to end this conflict.
Hamas is an Insurrection Movement against an occupying power and said occupying power killing more Palestinians is just going to give it more popular support and even more combatants, unless the objective of said occupying power is to “solve” the problem by killing all Palestinians.
Even putting the morality of the Occupation aside, the correct military way of going about this would be Counter Insurgency, but that means actually listening to and making the lives of Palestinians better, not making it worse sprinkled with random violence against civilians as the Israeli government has consistently done for 7 decades, so the only other military alternative that stands a chance of success is Genocide (i.e. stop the support for the Insurgency by killing or expelling the entire population).
I would never defend Israel’s shitty colonialist behavior over the last 7 decades. A horrible colonialist idea followed by generations of stupid mistakes and vile actions.
The question was “when is the world going to put a stop to this”. The answer seems to be that “the world” is going to let Israel attempt to dislodge Hamas. Eliminating Hamas is going to be a disgusting bloodbath and probably will just sew the seeds of the next conflict. The alternative is telling the Israeli people that they deserve to having Viking raiders pillaging the borders because the antisemitic leaders of “the greatest generation” picked a pretty horrible solution to what they called “the Jewish question”.
No good answers, no good guys.
The current Israeli government seems to be Fascist and historically Fascists aren’t exactly known for caring about the lives of “lesser races”, refraining from sacrificing even “their own people” “for the greater good” or once they’re engaged in politics by violent means to stop unless force by an even more powerful force.
Given that those Fascists have the unwavering support of the US (as well as from countries like France, the UK and Germany), they will likely continue the killings until they achieve what they themselves described as a “Second Nakba”
Fascinating, thanks for sharing that. Lehi was classified as a terrorist group by Israel although they were Zionists. As the article states, most Jewish militant groups at the time allied with the UK against Germany, not the other way around.
Wait until you hear about operation paperclip!
When will the World stop Israel indulging in this Blood thirsty revenge ritual ?
I suspect it will end when they have achieved safety for themselves. Unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza didn’t work, negotiating with Hamas didn’t work, perhaps destroying north Gaza, (and I suspect eventually annexing it,) to create distance from this endlessly violent and belligerent territory will keep their population safe from their explicitly genocidal enemy.
Israel never should have funded Hamas as a counter balance to the PLO: https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Yes indeed. In hindsight that seems obvious, but at the time it didn’t. Generally speaking divide and conquer is a good strategy against one’s opponents so I understand why they tried it. Israel’s system of incentives didn’t mean much to a radical Islamist enemy who wants to drive them into the sea at all costs. It kind of reminds me of how the US inadvertently created Al Qaeda via the Mujahadeen, which directly led to the 9/11 attacks.
The sad thing to me is that I don’t think either government genuinely cares about the 195 deaths except as political leverage on Hamas’s side and 195 fewer problems in Netanyahu’s way.
I really struggle to see what leverage Hamas gains by fudging their numbers. It feels like a talking point to reduce the fatality count.
This number, half this number, quarter this number… the political reality is the same. Murmurs of condemnation while the US keeps the money pump going, Israel keeps commiting war crimes, and Palestine shrinks into nothing.
It’s mostly to make their own people more sympathetic to their cause, I’d imagine.
You think entire city blocks bombed and leveled to the ground, entire families just disappearing from existence is not enough to sympathize, so they need to fake the numbers?